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House Bill 4009 of 2011, not eactly OC related, but....
« on: January 16, 2011, 06:17:16 PM »
House Bill 4009 of 2011 introduced.  If passed as is, will eliminate Gun Free Zones for CPL holders.

While this isn't exactly OC related, it could have an impact.
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Re: House Bill 4009 of 2011, not eactly OC related, but....
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2011, 06:41:52 PM »
if i read it right the repeal is to end the PFZs for concealed carriers. those restrictions already exist. why would there be a need for a bill to enact an existing restriction? democrat rep from westland area introduced it.
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Re: House Bill 4009 of 2011, not eactly OC related, but....
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2011, 08:24:51 PM »
You didn't read it right.  It repeals the Pistol free zones, it doesn't enact it.  If HB4009 is enacted, the pistol free zones will be gone, as far as CPL holders would be concerned.  Then CPL holders could carry concealed (or openly) anywhere.  The only possible restriction I know of that might remain would be courthouses, since that is a directive from the State Supreme court. 
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Re: House Bill 4009 of 2011, not eactly OC related, but....
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2011, 01:33:48 AM »
Quote from: Big Gay Al on January 16, 2011, 08:24:51 PM
You didn't read it right.  It repeals the Pistol free zones, it doesn't enact it.  If HB4009 is enacted, the pistol free zones will be gone, as far as CPL holders would be concerned.  Then CPL holders could carry concealed (or openly) anywhere.  The only possible restriction I know of that might remain would be courthouses, since that is a directive from the State Supreme court.

I see no mention to repeal gun free zones in federal buildings such as the post office
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Re: House Bill 4009 of 2011, not eactly OC related, but....
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2011, 02:06:33 AM »
Quote from: emt805 on January 17, 2011, 01:33:48 AM
Quote from: Big Gay Al on January 16, 2011, 08:24:51 PM
You didn't read it right.  It repeals the Pistol free zones, it doesn't enact it.  If HB4009 is enacted, the pistol free zones will be gone, as far as CPL holders would be concerned.  Then CPL holders could carry concealed (or openly) anywhere.  The only possible restriction I know of that might remain would be courthouses, since that is a directive from the State Supreme court.

I see no mention to repeal gun free zones in federal buildings such as the post office

That's a Federal law.
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Re: House Bill 4009 of 2011, not eactly OC related, but....
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2011, 02:10:25 AM »
Quote from: emt805 on January 17, 2011, 01:33:48 AM
Quote from: Big Gay Al on January 16, 2011, 08:24:51 PM
You didn't read it right.  It repeals the Pistol free zones, it doesn't enact it.  If HB4009 is enacted, the pistol free zones will be gone, as far as CPL holders would be concerned.  Then CPL holders could carry concealed (or openly) anywhere.  The only possible restriction I know of that might remain would be courthouses, since that is a directive from the State Supreme court.

I see no mention to repeal gun free zones in federal buildings such as the post office
Yeah, what TheQ said. ;)  As much as we may want it, state law can't dictate to the Fed.....well, not anymore anyway. :)
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Re: House Bill 4009 of 2011, not eactly OC related, but....
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2011, 06:18:56 PM »
I made that call for my Rep's support. Thanks for the info big al, it will be a great thing for OCing and CC. The right move. Carry On.
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Re: House Bill 4009 of 2011, not eactly OC related, but....
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2011, 06:31:31 PM »
Quote from: ocdetroit on January 17, 2011, 06:18:56 PM
I made that call for my Rep's support. Thanks for the info big al, it will be a great thing for OCing and CC. The right move. Carry On.
I'd call my rep, but I don't know if it will do any good, Barb Byrum. :(
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Re: House Bill 4009 of 2011, not eactly OC related, but....
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2011, 08:30:36 PM »
Quote from: Big Gay Al on January 17, 2011, 06:31:31 PM
Quote from: ocdetroit on January 17, 2011, 06:18:56 PM
I made that call for my Rep's support. Thanks for the info big al, it will be a great thing for OCing and CC. The right move. Carry On.
I'd call my rep, but I don't know if it will do any good, Barb Byrum. :(

Mine too, my friend.  I feel your pain.  Call the members of the Judiciary committee.  I posted all their contact information in another thread.  Call Thursday!
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Re: House Bill 4009 of 2011, not eactly OC related, but....
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2011, 08:02:41 AM »
To help everyone out, I created two mailing lists that go to the representatives.

mi_reps@miopencarry.org goes to the Republicans
mi_dems@miopencarry.org goes to the Democrats

I know I won't have time to call them all, so I'm calling my rep and writing an email to the rest.  All you need to do is send to these two addresses, and the list will forward them to each senator.


Carry on!
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Re: House Bill 4009 of 2011, not eactly OC related, but....
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2011, 01:30:39 PM »
A petition to submit to the Michigan State Legislature in regards to House Bills 4009 and 4010 of 2011 has been started. This petition will be submitted to all members of the Michigan State Legislature and to the Governor.  I ask that you sign this petition and forward it to everyone you know. Let us send a clear message to those who represent us.

http://www.petitiononline.com/MIHB4009/petition.html
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Re: House Bill 4009 of 2011, not eactly OC related, but....
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2011, 01:35:25 PM »
Quote from: sprinklerguy28 on January 19, 2011, 01:30:39 PM
A petition to submit to the Michigan State Legislature in regards to House Bills 4009 and 4010 of 2011 has been started. This petition will be submitted to all members of the Michigan State Legislature and to the Governor.  I ask that you sign this petition and forward it to everyone you know. Let us send a clear message to those who represent us.

http://www.petitiononline.com/MIHB4009/petition.html

Signed.

Posted to USA Carry as well.
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