List your Open Carry Experiences here.

[fozzy71]

.... MI gun laws are so confusing and F'd up, it's difficult to get people to understand that OC has separate laws regulating it and that the concealed carry laws they learned about in their class only apply to concealed carry.
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Last week:

OC'd in my 5/3 bank, no issues

OC'd in Roseville Urgent Care, which is nothing more than a private practice in a strip mall that is open 7 days.  I saw no mention of Hospital affiliation and did not see any no weapons signs.  The intake nurse told me, 'this is a hospital facility, so you are supposed to conceal'.  I chuckled and explained that I didnt think they were related to a hospital, but if they were, the only way to carry legally would be the way I was carrying.  I left them a tri-fold, and wish I had been carrying a MSP LU#86 (need to find a way to shrink that down to 1 sheet).

[autosurgeon]

OCed at the St. Johns Kroger no issues. Had a nice conversation with a fellow stocking shelves. Gave him a MOC trifold.

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[autosurgeon]

OCed at the dewitt autozone. No issues or comments.

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[Greyh Seer]

OC'd at 7-11 and at Delhi township offices.  No issues...though I did see the sign posted at the Holt library which told me a judge can suspend my 2nd ammendment rights within the library...obviously I choose not to enter...still, it irked me...

When is the next court date for CADL?

[venator]

OC'd at 7-11 and at Delhi township offices.  No issues...though I did see the sign posted at the Holt library which told me a judge can suspend my 2nd ammendment rights within the library...obviously I choose not to enter...still, it irked me...

When is the next court date for CADL?

Court is over.  The decision is being appealed.  Waiting to see if the CoA's will hear the appeal.

[Greyh Seer]

OC'd at 7-11 and at Delhi township offices.  No issues...though I did see the sign posted at the Holt library which told me a judge can suspend my 2nd ammendment rights within the library...obviously I choose not to enter...still, it irked me...

When is the next court date for CADL?

Court is over.  The decision is being appealed.  Waiting to see if the CoA's will hear the appeal.

What kind of deadline does the CoA have to decide?  Has CADL offered a dissenting opinion (or whatever)?

[METL]

OC'd in Panchero's in Eastwood Towne Center in Lansing...    apparently I need to work on my SA skills as I walked inside and there was not 1 but 2 lansing township police in there.  (I probably still would have went in but I was caught a touch off guard)  Their cruisers were on the other side of the bldg from where I parked.  One was in line just in front of me and the other (I didn't see until later) was sitting in the booth waiting for the other.

I sat my food down at a table, walked near them to go wash my hands...   and no comments, no looks, no nothing.   I'm not even sure if they saw my sidearm.

It was a big non-event..    as it should be.

[JoeCar]

Cruised around Fenton. Open carried at Aco, Sunoco, and the drive through of my bank. A few looks is about all.

[KO8Z]

OC'ed today at the "Roosevelt Park Day" Parade (muskegon) to watch my daughter in the marching band. Great weather, had a nice time too! A couple of LEO's noticed me and just smiled and waved. No problems here!

[rvd4now]

Demetrius, my apologies for the late response.  I did receive your voicemail as well and I wasn’t ignoring you – I’ve just been tied up with other business.  I had a chance to discuss this topic with our owner and while we understand your position and have a better understanding about Michigan’s laws regarding the open carry of guns, we are going to hold fast on our decision of not allowing guns to be openly carried at any of our facilities.  We’ll bow to your expertise in the areas of Michigan’s gun laws but we’d ask that you respect our wishes (no guns allowed).  We’ll no longer debate with you or other open carry advocates about this topic and we will simply have to agree to disagree on this topic.  Thank you.

 

Chris Brandt

Sr. V.P. of Operations

Emagine Entertainment/Cinema Hollywood

44425 West 12 Mile Rd.

Novi, MI 48377

Ph 248.468.2990, Ext 104

Fax 248.468.2995

[Shadow Bear]

Hey Onnie, thanks for the visual..

His thong rides up & gives him a 'whale tail'!

[Bronson]

My first real police interaction today.....and it was with the Feds.

I took the woman over to Detroit Metro for a flight out. On the way we stopped in Ann Arbor for a sandwich at Zingerman's Deli. The place was crazy busy but the food is great, expensive, but great. No issues there which surprised me since it's like hippy Mecca. Once we got to the airport we parked and walked in with no problems. She got her boarding passes and I saw her into the long line for security, said my goodbyes and departed.

On the way out two plainclothes (shorts, short sleeve button up shirts, and backpacks) TSA agents came up behind me. I have a recording but I can't edit the thing down and since it's only about 1:30 of a 27:00 .wav file I'll just type it out.

TSA: (I didn't know he was a TSA officer at this point) Are you a police officer?
Me: Nope.
TSA: Why do you have a firearm?
Me: I carry one every place I am legally allowed.
TSA: (pulling out badge) Can we talk for a minute?
Me: Sure, lets get over to the side out of these people's way.

As we are walking off to the side the urge to speak overwhelmed me and I volunteered "I just finished dropping off my girlfriend and now I'm heading out." The urge to speak is strong, which is why I try not to criticize those that do it during a stop.

Now we are off the moving sidewalk and over to the side of the hallway.

TSA: First, here are our IDs so you know we are really the police.
Me: (taking the time to read their credentials and comparing the pics to their faces) Thank you.
TSA: Can I see your ID?
Me: Am I legally required to show you my ID?
TSA: (looking at his partner, then back to me) I just want to see your ID.
Me: You've been nice, so I'll be nice. Here you go.
TSA: I'm a CPL holder myself. Is that a 1911?
Me: Yup.
TSA: Cocked and locked, the only way to carry it.
TSA: (while looking at my ID) Has this happened to you before.
Me: Just a couple of times when an officer has informed me my gun was showing and I said "thanks officer, that's how I keep it." and that was the end of it.
TSA: Ok, here you go. Thanks.

Then they turned and walked away and I was left to figure out where the hell I parked. All in all it was very short and they were professional and courteous the entire time.

That's not an exact transcript but it's pretty darn close and it has all the main points, warts and all.

I know I wasn't required to show my ID or to even speak with them. I was there and it was my call and that's what seemed appropriate at the time. Under different circumstances I may have done differently. Although I will in the future refrain from volunteering information. As soon as I did that my brain was yelling "what the hell are you doing? This won't help you. Shut up!"

After the airport I stopped into Dick's Sporting Goods in Taylor since I've never been to one of their stores (from a firearms standpoint this store is pathetic, don't waste your time). Then I went to Little Daddy's Family Restaurant for some greek food. No issues at either of those places.

And then their was the creepy van in the rest area.

I pulled into a rest area off of 94. It's right in the middle of some construction and you have to get off on an exit and detour around to the rest area. Consequently the place was deserted. Two big-rigs idling on the truck side and nobody on the car side.

I parked in the first non-handicapped spot and went in to take care of my business. When I came out there was a panel van parked in the spot next to my driver's door, which of course puts the van's side door right next to my car. It was just before dark and there was nobody else around. I could see somebody in the driver's seat but couldn't really make any features out. I walked by somewhat slowly with my strong side to the van and walked over to the passenger side of my car, grabbed some trash and took it back up the building to toss it. While I was walking back they pulled out and left.

I have no idea if there was something nefarious going on but I didn't like that they parked right next to me when there were other closer handicapped spots available.

Bronson

[Pond Scum]

Wow Bronson.   Whether or not to show ID is a personal call and it can depend on how you feel at the moment and what your plans are for the rest of the night.  Authoritarians seem have a need to see ID ... like it proves anything (some people even forged hall passes in high school)  ... but it seems to make them feel better.  When you refuse to show ID it seems to make them angry.

I'd say you did extremely well with your TSA encounter.     

[Bronson]

Wow Bronson.   Whether or not to show ID is a personal call and it can depend on how you feel at the moment and what your plans are for the rest of the night.  Authoritarians seem have a need to see ID ... like it proves anything (some people even forged hall passes in high school)  ... but it seems to make them feel better.  When you refuse to show ID it seems to make them angry.

I'd say you did extremely well with your TSA encounter.     

Thanks Pondy.  The heart was racing but I believe I was outwardly calm.  No shaking in my voice or hands and it was over so quickly I didn't really have time to get all panicky.

Bronson

[CV67PAT]

Bravo Zulu Bronson.

[northofnowhere]

I have a hard time calling the TSA Feds.  They seem so low on the totem pole, yet they protect soemthing so vital.  I know two local TSA people and well, the country may be better off with rent a cops half asleep at thier post if the two I know represent any portion of the TSA.  Many disagree with me, but I live in my own little happy go lucky world where the police are your allies and if they are respectful and truthful, I have no problem showing one form of ID or another, you did fine Bronson.

With regards the the IDing thing, the police do indeed always seem to us the "May we see your ID" thing to decide how to proceed, it seems to set the tone to see if they feel you are a threat or not.  Makes no sense to me, perhaps they simply need a new line to use to guage your mental state, such as "hey, whats your sign?"

[JoeCar]

Is that video available in which a lawyer tells a class why you do not ever engage in conversations with LEO's? The reason being that the conversation is their way into an investigation of your purpose.

[METL]

Standing in the pharmacy line at Meijer today.. woman was in line behind me... there was about 6 people ahead of us, so we were in line for maybe 10 min.. as it was about to be my turn at the counter, she noticed my sidearm and said "please tell me you're like some kind of cop or something and that you're not just carrying that thing like that and you're making me nervous". I responded "nervous? of what? How many times have I pulled it out since you've been here? how out of the oridinary have I been acting?" She said "I guess you're right" so I told her "the only thing that has changed from the last 10 min when you felt completely comfortable is you saw that I have a personal protection firearm which, I might add is properly holstered and licensed and perfectly legal."

I gave her a couple lines... cop doesn't fit on my belt... personal responsibilty to protect myself... fire extinguisher, etc... not sure what she thought of it all.. but her, nor the 6-8 people behind us in line went screaming from the store.


My prescription wasn't ready, so I shopped around for 15 min and came back.. I was probably less threatening with a bag of cat food and 2 3T sized T-shirts in my hand when I came back... no one else in the store said anything.

[JoeCar]

Open carried into Don Pablo's for dinner last night (Flint). Management didn't say peep except "booth or a table?" Some of the patron's looked odd in their gaze, but I figured it was the initial shock value. No one made any phone calls, so that made it a good night.

[Greyh Seer]

OC'd a lot over the last week or two:

Meijer, Kroger, Lowes, Home Depot, Pizza Hut, at home.  Only had a few people notice.  One Home Depot worker asked if I was a cop and then proceded to talk to me about how he was looking into getting a gun.  He asked a couple of questions and I gave him a trifold.

Had the cable installer and the plumber out to the house.  Both asked if I was law enforcement and both were gun owners and both were happy that I took serious my second amendment.