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Offline smallthunder

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Silencers Now Legal in Michigan
« on: September 03, 2011, 01:00:51 AM »
http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/states/michigan/

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The possession, manufacture, or sale of a firearm silencer is permitted in Michigan under MCL 750.224(1)(b) if the person is licensed or approved to possess, manufacture, or sell such a device by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, as required by MCL 750.224(3)(c). Possession, manufacture, or sale of a firearm silencer by an unlicensed or unapproved person is a felony, punishable by up to five years imprisonment under MCL 750.224(2).

Michigan Attorney Generals' Option 7260

Offline Shyster

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Re: Silencers Now Legal in Michigan
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2011, 03:24:42 PM »
Many (if not most) of you know me from MGO.

have had several inquiries over the last few days about NFA Trusts. I posted most of this last night but it disappeared with the server issues we had.
 
If you are interested in purchasing a NFA device (machine gun or silencer) you should NEVER do so in an individual capacity but rather through a NFA Trust or a Corporation. The NFA Trust is the preferred vehicle since there are annual fees and reporting requirements for LLCs that are not associated with NFA Trusts. The following is an excellent explanation as to why one would wish to establish such a trust:
 


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NFA Trust
 

An NFA trust is a legal instrument which must be properly drafted to be valid. It is an estate planning tool which can be used to acquire NFA (Class 3) weapons, suppressors and destructive devices. The trust instrument is usually a revocable trust which can be changed or modified at any time before the maker's death. This form provides flexibility. Trustees or beneficiaries can be added or deleted. Property can be transferred to or from the Trust. Such transfers must be documented in writing. A gun trust may own many NFA items. There is no need to set up a separate trust for each NFA item acquired. NFA items are transferred into the trust by means of an ATF Form 4. Non-NFA item such as paintings, collectables, rifles, pistols and shotguns are transferred to or from the trust by means of a bill of sale. The Form 4 and bill of sale document the transfers of property to and from the trust. This is very important as the Trustee who eventually distributes the trust assets upon its termination needs to know what the trust owns at a time when there is no one left alive to ask. It is these documents which provide a legal chain of title and evidence of ownership in the Trust.

Class 3 Gun Trusts Can Last Several Generations

 Unless the trust property is transferred out of the Trust it remains a trust asset until the trust terminates. This provides a continuity of ownership for several generations. A gun trust usually provides for disposition of property much like a will but the assets remain in the trust for several generations. A typical well written NFA gun trust will last years after those who created it have passed away as well as the initial beneficiaries.

NFA Trust Property Distributed When Trust Terminates
 
When the trust terminates, typically about 70 years after it is formed, the assets on hand are distributed by the trustee to the beneficiaries. These are usually the grantor's grandchildren. NFA items distributed at the end of the trust are taxed. Each transferee must pay the $200.00 transfer tax for each Class 3 item. This is different from a decedent's estate where Class 3 items pass tax free to one's heirs. The heirs (or their transferees) must pay the $200.00 transfer tax when they sell or transfer their inherited NFA item.

Trustee Administers Trust Assets for Trust Beneficiaries
 
Trustee(s) administer the trust's assets for the benefit of the beneficiaries. When the Trustor/Grantor (creator of the Trust) dies the trust usually continues with a successor Trustee administering the trust for the remaining beneficiaries. Because the trust lasts such a long time, successor Trustees and contingent beneficiaries should also be designated. Such trusts are often used when the Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO) of an NFA buyer's home city refuses to sign a Form 4 authorizing the transfer of an NFA weapon. CLEO signoffs have become an ever increasing problem in today's security conscious world. An NFA trust or corporation is a separate legal entity. It is the actual purchaser of the NFA item and not an individual. Since an individual is not the purchaser (transferee) on the Form 4 (NFA transfer document) no CLEO approval is required. No fingerprint cards or photographs are required for transfers of Class 3 items to a trust.


 http://www.guntrustlawyer.net/nfa_trust
 
You must establish the Trust prior to submitting your Form 4 for the purchase.
 
I have decided to start setting up NFA Trusts. I will prepare the Revocable Trust and all related documents necessary to establish a NFA trust in the State of Michigan. The client will receive all necessary documents with instructions on how to complete the necessary paperwork.

FEE: My fee for this will be $400.00. If you are an MOC Member or become one at the time I prepare the Trust my fee will be $350.00. PLEASE NOTE THIS IS FOR A STANDARD NFA TRUST. IF FOR SOME REASON YOU NEED A CUSTOM TRUST DRAFTED THE FEE WILL BE MORE.
 
If you are interested in this service please contact me via PM or at NFATrust@makowskilegal.com and we can get the ball rolling. While I always welcome meeting people there is no need to do so in this case and everything can be handled online.

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Re: Silencers Now Legal in Michigan
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 10:28:18 PM »
Thanks for the information Shyster!
Anything I post may be my opinion and not the law... you are responsible to do your own verification.

Blackstone (1753-1765) maintains that "the law holds that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."