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New from Commerce. First Day OC'ing. One good experience... one bad

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prospectpuppet:
Just a little friendly advice: be careful doing the whole "transport then OC" thing. If anyone (especially a LEO) sees you pull your weapon from the trunk to holster it, they could potentially get you for brandishing. Just make sure it stays hidden from the public eye until it's secured. Also, (correct me if I'm wrong) but I believe there are only certain locations you can "transport" a firearm to. And dicks isn't one of them. I've had my cpl for a while now so I can't remember that law exactly but I believe it's only places like a gunsmith or shooting range, etc. Anyway, just looking out. Be safe, have fun, carry on.

Brad

TheQ:
MCL 750.231a states a lawful purpose *includes* x, y, and z. The most important word there is "includes"...this not an exclusive list.

The MSP seems to suggest otherwise in MSP Legal Update 86 indicating this could be a grey area (even though it's black and white language). The "safest" advise is always to get a CPL.

IANAL and this post isn't legal advice.

yance:

--- Quote from: prospectpuppet on July 25, 2012, 04:10:33 AM ---Just a little friendly advice: be careful doing the whole "transport then OC" thing. If anyone (especially a LEO) sees you pull your weapon from the trunk to holster it, they could potentially get you for brandishing. Just make sure it stays hidden from the public eye until it's secured. Also, (correct me if I'm wrong) but I believe there are only certain locations you can "transport" a firearm to. And dicks isn't one of them. I've had my cpl for a while now so I can't remember that law exactly but I believe it's only places like a gunsmith or shooting range, etc. Anyway, just looking out. Be safe, have fun, carry on.

Brad

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A few years ago, to my knowledge, the laws were inclusive, meaning you could ONLY transport for those reasons.  However they were updated to state "to include" so that it listed a few examples but it didnt make it mandatory to only transport for those purposes, there is currently some legislation trying to make its way through that would eliminate the list and take away the listed places and leave it at "transportation for a lawful purpose"

Currently under the law someone can transport a firearm for OC, aside from the list including examples of some times when someone may transport it also states:

750.231a

(d) To a person while transporting a pistol for a lawful purpose that is licensed by the owner or occupant of the motor vehicle in compliance with section 2 of 1927 PA 372, MCL 28.422, and the pistol is unloaded in a closed case designed for the storage of firearms in the trunk of the vehicle.

As a law abiding citizen open carry would qualify as a "lawful purpose" as long as you are doing so within the confines of the law.

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