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Offline Shadow Bear

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On the right to keep & bear arms; reasons & rationale
« on: July 04, 2012, 10:37:25 AM »
The constitutional right to bear arms was to allow the populace in general to protect themselves from ALL enemies.

I have a problem when one of those possible enemies is allowed to determine what is 'reasonable'.

Had the British understood the colonies potential for guerrilla warfare, they would have outlawed long guns. They fully expected to meet their opponent on the field of battle in an 'honorable' formation. We, however, hid behind trees & rocks.

The founders were obviously thinking of the recent conflict winning our freedom, and the possibility that it would be necessary to do so again. The balance of power assures freedom.

Let us pray that it never becomes necessary, but be always prepared if it should.

Thomas Jefferson put it best:

"And what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure."
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On the right to keep & bear arms; reasons & rationale
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2012, 10:49:52 AM »
Am I missing something?
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Re: On the right to keep & bear arms; reasons & rationale
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2012, 11:14:08 AM »
Am I missing something?

Posted it over in a thread on MGO, thought it might provoke some thought here.

You, obviously 'get it', for others, maybe not yet.
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Re: On the right to keep & bear arms; reasons & rationale
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2012, 07:52:53 PM »
They fully expected to meet their opponent on the field of battle in an 'honorable' formation. We, however, hid behind trees & rocks.
Actually this isn't quite right.

Oh sure, we did that at first because we didn't really know anything else, but it wasn't a winning tactic for us.  It's a myth we won while using cover while the British stood out in the open to get shot.  We changed and learned the 18th century warfare that the British were using.  Our Army and even the militia began standing in ranks and trading volleys with the British, finally capturing the battle field at bayonet point.  Only then did we begin winning battles and ultimately the war.

In fact, these tried and true tactics were used even into the 20th century.  Civil War, anyone?

It was the development and use of the machine gun in warfare that forced these linear tactics to change, because a fully automatic gun could easily mow down rows of soldiers.
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