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Massad Ayoob Discusses 'Stand Your Ground' Laws
« on: August 01, 2012, 06:09:57 PM »

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Re: Massad Ayoob Discusses 'Stand Your Ground' Laws
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2012, 06:29:01 PM »
Good video Thanks for posting!
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Re: Massad Ayoob Discusses 'Stand Your Ground' Laws
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2012, 07:10:35 PM »
Actually, at about 1:05 he's incorrect...at least according to my understanding of Michigan Law.

Self-Defense is an affirmative defense.  This means you admit, in court (stipulate) that you committed the underlying killing, but you offer a "justified" excuse.  It's then up to the prosecutor to prove to a jury "beyond all reasonable doubt" that your excuse is false/made up/not the truth/shooting wasn't justified.  The fact that YOU DID IT is no longer a question for the jury to decide (you stipulated to it by using an affirmative defense).

At the "show cause" hearing the prosecution shows some or all of their hand.  The judge has to look at all the evidence in the light "that best favors the prosecution".  If in that light, he sees that it is "probable" (more likely than not) that your self-defense argument is invalid, then off to trial you go.
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Re: Massad Ayoob Discusses 'Stand Your Ground' Laws
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2012, 01:43:53 PM »
Great vid...


Anyone know if Ayoob has a toupee?   LoL..     

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Re: Massad Ayoob Discusses 'Stand Your Ground' Laws
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2012, 01:52:23 PM »
Great video, thanks for posting it.

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Massad Ayoob Discusses 'Stand Your Ground' Laws
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2012, 01:57:33 PM »
Not relevant to this video, but Ayoob thinks OC is a bad idea...shot first, element of surprise...blah blah
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Re: Massad Ayoob Discusses 'Stand Your Ground' Laws
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2012, 05:09:50 PM »
So does Nugent, that was disappointing to find out as I otherwise like Nugent.

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Re: Massad Ayoob Discusses 'Stand Your Ground' Laws
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2012, 09:24:40 PM »
Hopefully Ayoob and Nugent aren't suprised by a gun in their face by a lowlife coward,who would've been scared off by an OCed gun! Everyone has an opinion!
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