Confusion with SB-58 and SB-59?

[ken243]

After reviewing the bill from the state senate there may have been some confusion. SB-59 as far as I can tell is to transfer issuing responsibility to SOS. SB-58 is what we should really be fighting for, this is what repeals PFZ's. Again, this is after I have read both and the best I can understand. Please read for yourself:

SB-58
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(0t2rcib4e3y5y145mv2rk1qg))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=2011-SB-0058
SB-59
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(0t2rcib4e3y5y145mv2rk1qg))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectName=2011-SB-0059

Also, HB 5225 and SB-59 are on the

schedule.http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(2abzw0qaag2h3f5542zoryvh))/documents/2011-2012/Calendar/Senate/htm/2012-sc-09-25-068.htm

[TheQ]

Ken,

SB 59 actually eliminates PFZs.  You can't read the version on the legislative website, it's been substituted.

Start your reading here for more details:
http://forums.michiganopencarry.org/index.php/topic,1677.0.html
http://www.miopencarry.org/moc_files/legislative/SB59.S-3.Draft6.pdf
http://www.miopencarry.org/moc_files/legislative/SB59-Summary.docx

MOC's stance per the Boadr of DIrectors is "Neutral" on HB 5225.  There are lengthy discussions on other websites if you want to know more why we are neutral.  If you want to know more, PM me.

[ken243]

Ok thanks Q. Just wanted to be sure we all were supporting the correct bill.

[WilDChilD]

Ken,

SB 59 actually eliminates PFZs.  You can't read the version on the legislative website, it's been substituted.

Start your reading here for more details:
http://forums.michiganopencarry.org/index.php/topic,1677.0.html
http://www.miopencarry.org/moc_files/legislative/SB59.S-3.Draft6.pdf
http://www.miopencarry.org/moc_files/legislative/SB59-Summary.docx

MOC's stance per the Boadr of DIrectors is "Neutral" on HB 5225.  There are lengthy discussions on other websites if you want to know more why we are neutral.  If you want to know more, PM me.

I don't want to rehash everything here but I respectfully think the board should rethink their position.

[TheQ]

I don't want to rehash everything here but I respectfully think the board should rethink their position.

I know there is at least one board members who concurs.

[Super Trucker]

I know there is at least one board members who concurs.

Shame on at least the one board member.

[TheQ]

I'm going to close this thread as it is a matter internal to the membership. If someone would like to discuss the matter in the members' feedback area, they are welcome to start a thread there.