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Offline thamesmeister

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2016: Obama's America
« on: October 16, 2012, 07:13:36 PM »
This is an appropriate movie for showing in your home to as many people as you can on October 31 or sooner.  It is available from Amazon Instant Video and Vudu for those of you that have these services on your DVD players. 

It's more scary that any horror movie that you care to watch and my actually convince some people that the devil himself was elected in 2008.

It was at a few theaters that were brave enough to show it but it is now available on the above referenced sites.  It's also available for purchase at:

shop.newsmax.com/ for 4.95 plus shipping.

Please watch this movie.....

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Re: 2016: Obama's America
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2012, 08:47:56 PM »
This isn't a movie ! Its garbage.

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Re: 2016: Obama's America
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2012, 09:53:10 PM »
This isn't a movie. It's a documentary.

FIFY.

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Re: 2016: Obama's America
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2012, 11:07:43 PM »
It's still garbage.

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Re: 2016: Obama's America
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2012, 11:14:14 PM »
It's not truthful?  You've watched it?

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Re: 2016: Obama's America
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2012, 05:55:34 AM »
No I have not watched it and I wont watch it. And it is not truthfull.

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Re: 2016: Obama's America
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2012, 06:56:14 AM »
No I have not watched it and I wont watch it. And it is not truthfull.

You refuse to watch it, yet you say it is not truthful.  Even I watched Michael Moore's works and could debate them point by point.  Roger and Me, Bowling For Columbine.  I can post a page full of things I publicly wrote about Fahrenheit 9/11 in 2004, pointing out every lie he told, describing the tenor and approach of the movie (which changed midway through).

So you tell me some of the lies that are in "2016: Obama's America."
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Re: 2016: Obama's America
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2012, 12:23:36 PM »
I watched it. Nothing I didn't expect..
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2016: Obama's America
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2012, 01:08:18 PM »
Here's a good question: do you honestly believe Romney will save our country?
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Re: 2016: Obama's America
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2012, 01:14:48 PM »
From my point of you. There is no one person that is going to fix anything in this country. There is really no difference between Democrat and Republican. There all politicians with there own agenda's. There are only two things that can "Fix" the country. The Constitution as written by the founding fathers and We the people.
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Re: 2016: Obama's America
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2012, 03:29:38 PM »
Here's a good question: do you honestly believe Romney will save our country?
I think he is the lesser of the two evils, so to speak, and anyone who votes for Obama is insane. 
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2016: Obama's America
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2012, 04:39:47 PM »
I think he is the lesser of the two evils, so to speak, and anyone who votes from Obama is insane.

Never said anyone should vote for Obama. Then again, I never said anyone should vote for Romney.

As far as the lesser of two evils, well, it's your vote. Just know you're voting for evil.
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Re: 2016: Obama's America
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2012, 05:08:02 PM »
As far as the lesser of two evils, well, it's your vote. Just know you're voting for evil.
Ya gotta play the cards you are dealt.  :(

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2016: Obama's America
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2012, 05:11:24 PM »
Ya gotta play the cards you are dealt.  :(

I already voted. I feel I voted for no evil.
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Re: 2016: Obama's America
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2012, 07:32:19 PM »
I already voted and I must be insane.

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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2012, 07:39:29 PM »
I don't think Romney has the power or clout to improve 2A rights, even if he wanted and there was 100% Republicans in congress.

The fact of the matter is, the more comfortable the party in power is with their majority, the less they have to and feel inclined to do things that favor their base. You needn't look further than Michigan to see this. The Republicans have complete, unrefutable  control over State Government. Now ask what has happened with:

2A rights?
Right to Work
Right to Life

ALL the above ate traditional "Republican" causes...yet they have gone no where. Why? Because the Republicans are too cozy with their power. If the Republicans had a slimmer majority in the house and/or senate, we'd see more action on Pro-2A legislation.

Just like I don't believe Obama has the power or clout to make 2A worse.
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Re: 2016: Obama's America
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2012, 07:53:16 PM »
Here you go, Phil.  :)


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Re: 2016: Obama's America
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2012, 11:11:44 PM »
I already voted. I feel I voted for no evil.

No you voted for a guy that might, MIGHT, get 10% of the vote. Not enough to do anything but make votes for Obama count more.
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2012, 12:43:38 AM »
No you voted for a guy that might, MIGHT, get 10% of the vote. Not enough to do anything but make votes for Obama count more.

I didn't say who I voted for...or if I voted for president at all (I may have under voted). I will say this: If I voted for President, I voted my conscious and I'll be able to live with the result.
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Re: 2016: Obama's America
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2012, 01:05:28 AM »
Here you go, Phil.  :)



Here's part of the problem with the idea that if we get Romney elected: An incumbent (Romney) will be impossible to Primary in 4 years.  If you want a different choice in 4 years other than Romney and (Insert some Democrat) then you cannot have Romney as an incumbent.

His argument goes like this: If everyone who is voting for (Not Obama&&Not Romney) votes for Romney, then Romney will win.  I pose a counter to that argument: If everyone who votes for Romney votes for someone else with more conservative values, then that other person will win.

I refuse to believe I have two choices.  If you think you MUST choose from two people, then you have been brainwashed by the national duopoly who tries so desperately to hold on to their power that they won't even allow other viewpoints to come into their debate.

Vote how you want, I already have and no amount of guilting from any party will make me sorry for how I voted (or didn't vote).  I'll tell you this much, I didn't vote for Romney or Obama.  I'll also make this deal to whoever quotes this first: if Romney loses Michigan by 2 votes or less (my wife's and I's -- I influence my wife's vote heavily), I will personally pay you $100.

A vote for Romney is a vote that tells the Republican Party: "it's okay if you put up a fake conservative for nomination, we'll vote for him anyways."  Once you tell them that, you lose all hope of bringing the country back to a small government system.  I didn't vote for a Republican for president because this time the party didn't earn my vote.

To all of you who will dog me because of my vote, I ask this: How many hours did you spend making phone calls at your local victory center for the Republican Party?  How many doors did you knock for the Republican Party?  Are you a precinct delegate for the Republican Party?  If no, why the hell not?  I am.  Are you a member of your county's Republican Executive Committee?  If no, why the hell not?  I am.  How many Republican State conventions have you attended this year?  I've been to two. How much of your own money have you sent to a Republican candidate this year?  I've sent well over $500 between 3 candidates (Justin Amash and Kerry Bentivello to name two of them).

I'll tell your my answers: More than a dozen and more than 200.  If you would get off your bottom and do likewise rather than crab at me for how I voted....your guy might stand a better chance of winning.

I believe in the Republican party, I just don't believe in Romney.
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