Author Topic: House took SB59 off agenda (Read 14524 times)

sonicmatter · « **on:** December 03, 2012, 11:56:25 AM »

Phillip. I got the email and called Representative Foster's office just now. I was told SB59 was taken off the agenda and will not be voted on tomorrow. I asked why and was told there are "issues with the bill as it is currently written".

Just an FYI.

sonicmatter · « **Reply #1 on:** December 03, 2012, 12:04:48 PM »

I called back Representative Foster's office to get more details. The initial person I spoke with was Rob, but he said he did not know why it was taken off the agenda and transferred me to Jason. When I asked Jason what specific part of the legislation they had a problem with he told me he didn't know and suggested I contact Sen Green. When pressed further he stated "we are waiting to hear that everyone is in agreement with the language" before putting it up for vote.

TheQ · « **Reply #2 on:** December 03, 2012, 12:39:51 PM »

I'm a bit in the dark too. I was told there is "ongoing negotiations"

detroit_fan · « **Reply #3 on:** December 03, 2012, 01:22:57 PM »

maybe i'm a pessimist, but i have a bad feeling about this. suddenly i'm not very confident it will see the light of day again.

bagz013 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 03, 2012, 01:43:59 PM »

We can hope and pray that our elected officials do the right thing here.

Not liking the political speak we're getting though....

detroit_fan · « **Reply #5 on:** December 03, 2012, 02:17:30 PM »

this was just posted on MCRGO FB page-

NEW SB 59 UPDATE: SB 59 will likely either run next Tuesday in the House Natural Resources Committee or be discharged from the committee later this week. However, we've now run into a problem with one committee member. Rep. Kurt Damrow,
a freshman Republican who was defeated in his primary election this summer, is telling other Republican committee members that gun owners oppose the bill. Damrow opposes SB 59 due to a conflict he has with his local sheriff. It would be helpful to contact the committee members, particularly the Republican members expressing your support for SB 59. You can easily e-mail those members by clicking on the link below.

gryphon · « **Reply #6 on:** December 03, 2012, 02:37:33 PM »

Quote from: detroit_fan on December 03, 2012, 02:17:30 PM

Rep. Kurt Damrow, a freshman Republican who was defeated in his primary election this summer, is telling other Republican committee members that gun owners oppose the bill.

On what grounds do gun owners oppose this bill? MCRGO is no better than those inept newspaper story writers who leave out all the facts.

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Damrow opposes SB 59 due to a conflict he has with his local sheriff.

What conflict? MCRGO is no better than those inept newspaper story writers who leave out all the facts.

So Damro, a lame-duck member, is opposing this in his last week because of his sheriff? And he cares about his sheriff's opposition why?

If MCRGO is talking to Damro and others, give us the details. Idiots.

ETA: I just signed up for MCRGO statewide updates.

TheQ · « **Reply #7 on:** December 03, 2012, 02:42:02 PM »

I'm sure Brady was purposely brief because most ppl have a short attention span

CrossPistols · « **Reply #8 on:** December 03, 2012, 04:13:47 PM »

CV67PAT · « **Reply #9 on:** December 04, 2012, 10:51:55 PM »

Quote from: gryphon on December 03, 2012, 02:37:33 PM

On what grounds do gun owners oppose this bill?

Where have you been?!?! Don't you read the Michigan gun forums?

I'd say at least 15 - 20 OCers have made it their personal agenda to thwart this bill and jeopardize the benefit of this bill to nearly 350,000 gunowners statewide.

TheQ · « **Reply #10 on:** December 04, 2012, 10:54:18 PM »

Quote from: CV67PAT on December 04, 2012, 10:51:55 PM

I'd say at least 15 - 20 OCers have made it their personal agenda to thwart this bill and jeopardize the benefit of this bill to nearly 350,000 gunowners statewide.

You can find their names here:

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/poll.php?pollid=1019&do=showresults

gryphon · « **Reply #11 on:** December 04, 2012, 11:11:46 PM »

Quote from: CV67PAT on December 04, 2012, 10:51:55 PM

Where have you been?!?! Don't you read the Michigan gun forums?

I'd say at least 15 - 20 OCers have made it their personal agenda to thwart this bill and jeopardize the benefit of this bill to nearly 350,000 gunowners statewide.

I know. I don't suspect those dozen and a half are the ones Kurt Damrow was talking about.

CV67PAT · « **Reply #12 on:** December 04, 2012, 11:14:40 PM »

Quote from: gryphon on December 04, 2012, 11:11:46 PM

I know. I don't suspect those dozen and a half are the ones Kurt Damrow was talking about.

I think it is once again the "vocal minority" being heard over the "silent majority."

gryphon · « **Reply #13 on:** December 04, 2012, 11:31:46 PM »

Well, it's possible.

Super Trucker · « **Reply #14 on:** December 04, 2012, 11:35:24 PM »

I think that Randy didn't want protestors at his home so he blew smoke up MOC's ass by making everybody think he did his best and the house screwed this up, when in reality he had no intention of it going anyplace and all of this is running by the plan they already had in place.

TheQ · « **Reply #15 on:** December 04, 2012, 11:48:31 PM »

Time will reveal all

CV67PAT · « **Reply #16 on:** December 05, 2012, 12:09:00 AM »

Quote from: CV67PAT on December 04, 2012, 11:14:40 PM

I think it is once again the "vocal minority" being heard over the "silent majority."

"Hell no... We wanna show!
Hell no... We wanna show!
Hell no... We wanna show!"

TheQ · « **Reply #17 on:** December 05, 2012, 12:11:24 AM »

Michigan Students for Conceal Carry = Support
MGO = Support
MCRGO = Support
MOC = Support
MSP = Neutral

Has anyone ascertained UFO's position?

CV67PAT · « **Reply #18 on:** December 05, 2012, 12:31:53 AM »

Quote from: TheQ on December 05, 2012, 12:11:24 AM

Has anyone ascertained UFO's position?

All of its member (not members) does opposse it, from what I read on another forum.

Bronson · « **Reply #19 on:** December 05, 2012, 01:05:07 AM »

Quote from: CV67PAT on December 05, 2012, 12:31:53 AM

All of its member (not members) does opposse it, from what I read on another forum.

Hahahaha...well done

Bronson

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Author Topic: House took SB59 off agenda (Read 14524 times)