Q, that is a good point about it being optional. It does not change the fact that it is required if you want to have the freedoms attached to the bill.
I think some of the confusion, Is i am not suggesting we just change the requirement because it will make us feel safer. I am pretty much suggesting Arizona style law. No CPL needed. You buy and gun and go about your business free to practice your rights to self defense. But we are not going to get that through If we could not get SB59 through. Ya know what I mean? Maybe the next governor will be more friendly to our rights, but it is not going to happen right now. I understand their are revisions to SB59 and we are trying again on the bill. This is still just making the current laws suck a little bit less. And there is a tremendous amount of homework that needs to be done if you want to carry a gun in MI. Especially with open carry. It is so complicated. I did not want the original post to be 4 years long so In an attempt to stay brief I left out a lot of my thoughts in attempt to just coach the discussion as we went on. If we could trade a higher level of qualification, to do away with pistol free zones, as we have supported with sb59, and add the rest of the tedious laws that we are held to, would MOC members support it. pretty much Arizona law with the added requirement to qualify, so it has a chance at passing. show up and shoot the class with your pistol, leave with a card saying you are good to go. I absolutely agree with 99% of the discussion in this thread. I am not trying to take a fair weather 2A rights stance. I am trying to get find something that is passable though. Thanks for everyones thoughts and input! And Q thank you for your ongoing dedication to our cause and all the time you have spent fighting for us.
