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Offline TheQ

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OC on a "bike"
« on: February 06, 2013, 10:08:11 PM »
This one came directly to my personal MOC address:

Can you tell me if it is lawful to open carry while riding a bike?

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Re: OC on a "bike"
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2013, 11:19:20 PM »
Bike as in bicycle or motorcycle? It does make a difference. On a motorcycle it is a gray area, some say a CPL is required others say it is not because you are not "in" the vehicle. I would personally only ride with a CPL. On a bicycle I don't believe there are any laws regarding it any more than being a pedestrian.
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Re: OC on a "bike"
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2013, 07:19:45 AM »
Two points of debate here.

1: Does "in" include on?

2: What is/isn't a "vehicle"?

Sadly, I have yet to find a definitive answer for either question.
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OC on a "bike"
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2013, 07:57:20 AM »
Two points of debate here.

1: Does "in" include on?

2: What is/isn't a "vehicle"?

Sadly, I have yet to find a definitive answer for either question.

Maybe you could reference the law that you are speaking about?
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Re: OC on a "bike"
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2013, 01:14:03 PM »
I'm trying to remember where I read it, but I think it used the words "motorized vehicle", so pedal power would be OK, but any type of motor would require CPL.

If I am remembering the above correctly, the gray area would be a moped, no CPL needed if pedaling, but if using the motor you need a CPL. ???

I will try to find where I read this and post back.
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Re: OC on a "bike"
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2013, 02:31:46 PM »
750.227 comes to mind, but it has an exemption for those with "a license to carry the pistol as provided by law."

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Re: OC on a "bike"
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2013, 06:51:39 PM »
If the original question was referring to a bicycle, there was a lot of discussion and law referenced in this thread (with minor references to motorcycles I think):

http://forums.michiganopencarry.org/index.php/topic,1818.0.html

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Re: OC on a "bike"
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2013, 06:57:36 PM »
The question of riding a bicycle has been asked and answered in the "Ask a firearms attorney sub forum" see the link below for the thread.  I think you may find your answer there.

http://forums.michiganopencarry.org/index.php/topic,1863.0.html

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Re: OC on a "bike"
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2013, 08:39:39 PM »
I contacted the Michigan State Police Legislative and Legal Resources Section about open carry on a motorcycle. My question to them was I have a cpl and want to carry my handgun in a holster on my hip exposed while riding. Does the law allow me to do this. I was told that yes the law allows me to do this. I don't think I would carry on a bike without a cpl. People have been arrested for drunk riding a bike !

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Re: OC on a "bike"
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2013, 10:58:57 PM »
Bike OK without cpl, riding or walking no good drunk. With a gun. 8). Carry On.
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