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Offline Super Trucker

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Re: Sen. Green's bills at a standstill
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2013, 03:46:39 PM »
Quote from: TheQ on March 23, 2013, 01:46:29 PM
Free people are going to do what free people are going to do.  How many people commenting in this thread have done so much as call their Senator yet on this bill?

hmmm?

I called a few days after I read about the introduction this bill. It was a waste of 2 minutes. Tupac Hunter, need I say more?

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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2013, 04:44:22 PM »
Quote from: Super Trucker on March 24, 2013, 03:46:39 PM
I called a few days after I read about the introduction this bill. It was a waste of 2 minutes. Tupac Hunter, need I say more?


It's all a huge waste of time and effort. Going does no good. Writing letters does no good. Calling is useless. They have their own self-centered interests motivating them. They will lie and pander to us when they want to get elected. But once entrenched at the government trough, re-election is all they think about.

Case in point...

Randy Richardville and Right to Work.

http://onthefarm.e2bn.org/littlefarm/library/1169628412/100_6563.jpg
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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2013, 06:07:58 PM »
Was that Snyder next to him? lol
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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2013, 06:39:26 PM »
Quote from: CV67PAT on March 24, 2013, 04:44:22 PM
It's all a huge waste of time and effort. Going does no good. Writing letters does no good. Calling is useless. They have their own self-centered interests motivating them. They will lie and pander to us when they want to get elected. But once entrenched at the government trough, re-election is all they think about.

Case in point...

Randy Richardville and Right to Work.

http://onthefarm.e2bn.org/littlefarm/library/1169628412/100_6563.jpg

I hear ya.
My wife and I are looking to relocate our business to either TX or OK just because this state is not small business friendly. She doesn't want to move so I will be stuck living here but can no longer afford to run a business here.
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« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2013, 10:35:29 PM »
Quote from: Super Trucker on March 24, 2013, 06:39:26 PM
I hear ya.
My wife and I are looking to relocate our business to either TX or OK just because this state is not small business friendly. She doesn't want to move so I will be stuck living here but can no longer afford to run a business here.
And I see it getting worse for the small guy. I shut down a few years ago. Much easier to collect a paycheck and sleep at night.

The one thing that that hinders the most is the "Single Business Tax" that just won't go away.
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Sen. Green's bills at a standstill
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2013, 07:59:19 AM »
Quote from: CV67PAT on March 24, 2013, 10:35:29 PM
And I see it getting worse for the small guy. I shut down a few years ago. Much easier to collect a paycheck and sleep at night.

The one thing that that hinders the most is the "Single Business Tax" that just won't go away.

SBT died in 2008, replaced by MBT, which has since been replaced by CIT.
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« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2013, 07:08:14 PM »
Quote from: TheQ on March 25, 2013, 07:59:19 AM
SBT died in 2008, replaced by MBT, which has since been replaced by CIT.
Call it what you wish. It's still the same horse of a different color.
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« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2013, 01:21:01 PM »
Quote from: CV67PAT on March 25, 2013, 07:08:14 PM
Call it what you wish. It's still the same horse of a different color.

You are correct. Just more Newspeak a la "1984"
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Re: Sen. Green's bills at a standstill
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2013, 06:42:39 AM »
Quote from: TheQ on March 23, 2013, 01:46:29 PM
Free people are going to do what free people are going to do.  How many people commenting in this thread have done so much as call their Senator yet on this bill?

hmmm?

Senator Colbeck is in full support of this bill as he was of SB59

Our legislatures are cowards pure and simple... It's gonna be a long summer if spring ever gets here..
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« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2013, 01:40:13 PM »
Quote from: .40 Cal on March 30, 2013, 06:42:39 AM
Senator Colbeck is in full support of this bill as he was of SB59

Our legislatures are cowards pure and simple... It's gonna be a long summer if spring ever gets here..

Don't be so sure, Jones voted for the bill also...under duress.
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Re: Sen. Green's bills at a standstill
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2013, 05:00:26 PM »
Quote from: TheQ on March 30, 2013, 01:40:13 PM
Don't be so sure, Jones voted for the bill also...under duress.

You are assuming it even gets a vote
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« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2013, 05:51:57 PM »
Quote from: Ezerharden on March 30, 2013, 05:00:26 PM
You are assuming it even gets a vote
I doubt that it will. NO legislator wastes their political chips on worthless legislation.
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Re: Sen. Green's bills at a standstill
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2013, 02:05:12 AM »
Quote from: CV67PAT on March 30, 2013, 05:51:57 PM
I doubt that it will. NO legislator wastes their political chips on worthless legislation.

Worthless to who, their constituents or their political careers?
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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2013, 02:25:00 AM »
Quote from: Ezerharden on March 31, 2013, 02:05:12 AM
Worthless to who, their constituents or their political careers?
worthless to waste their political favors on. If it isn't going to get passed, why waste favors on it. Politically worthless.
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Re: Sen. Green's bills at a standstill
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2013, 10:49:28 PM »
Quote from: CV67PAT on March 31, 2013, 02:25:00 AM
worthless to waste their political favors on. If it isn't going to get passed, why waste favors on it. Politically worthless.

Gotcha, so no pro gun legislation until at least 2014 when we can hopefully get rid of the RINO's and anti-gun dems and replace them with our kind of people.
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« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2013, 12:47:43 AM »
Quote from: Ezerharden on March 31, 2013, 10:49:28 PM
Gotcha, so no pro gun legislation until at least 2014 when we can hopefully get rid of the RINO's and anti-gun dems and replace them with our kind of people.

Rick is the biggest part of the problem at the moment -- and nobody is seeking to primary him :(
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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2013, 01:14:51 AM »
Quote from: TheQ on April 01, 2013, 12:47:43 AM
Rick is the biggest part of the problem at the moment -- and nobody is seeking to primary him :(

Which is why we should start pushing hard now. Let these people know that if they don't start passing some pro gun laws, we will start passing out pink slips. Waiting until fall is too late to start, it needs to be started before the elections get going.
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« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2013, 02:20:23 AM »
Quote from: Ezerharden on April 01, 2013, 01:14:51 AM
Which is why we should start pushing hard now. Let these people know that if they don't start passing some pro gun laws, we will start passing out pink slips. Waiting until fall is too late to start, it needs to be started before the elections get going.

Elections won't be until next year.
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« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2013, 02:23:29 AM »
BTW, 213 is currently in Casperson's committee. Whose up for a rally in Escanaba? :)
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« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2013, 02:25:08 AM »
Quote from: TheQ on April 01, 2013, 02:20:23 AM
Elections won't be until next year.

I know. I did say start early.
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