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Offline Ryan182

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Independance Day Open Carry March on D.C.
« on: May 14, 2013, 10:03:13 AM »
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On the morning of July 4, 2013, Independence Day, we will muster at the National Cemetery & at noon we will step off to march across the Memorial Bridge, down Independence Avenue, around the Capitol, the Supreme Court, & the White House, then down Constitution Avenue to peacefully return to Virginia across the Memorial Bridge. This is an act of civil disobedience, not a permitted event. We will march with rifles loaded & slung across our backs to put the government on notice that we will not be intimidated & cower in submission to tyranny. We are marching to mark the high water mark of government & to turn the tide. This will be a non-violent event, unless the government chooses to make it violent. Should we meet physical resistance, we will peacefully turn back, having shown that free people are not welcome in Washington, & return with the resolve that the politicians, bureaucrats, & enforcers of the federal government will not be welcome in the land of the free. “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” – Thomas Jefferson. Does the government fear the people? If not, something is wrong, and we aim to change it.

It is time to marshall forces and grow our numbers. Please share this page and invite all your friends. There are only two ways this goes down. 1) Obama issues an order to the DC Chief of Police who has pledged to violate the Constitution and we execute our plan with a police escort. 2) We are not allowed to enter the District and will halt the formation well before the line at which point, with the whole world watching, we will declare the federal government illegitimate, and peacefully disperse. I much prefer option one, and the more people we have on board, the more likely it is to happen. So share this page and spread the word! It looks like we’re on track to clear 10k RSVPs well before the target of June 1. The more people think about this idea, the more they realize their fears are motivations, and their uneasiness turns to resolve. But let’s not stop at 10k. Let’s get 100k signed up so that Obama himself cannot ignore us! Who knows, maybe by Independence Day, we’ll have a million people standing with us to declare that the federal government has no authority over free people when free people are not allowed in the nation’s capitol!




I know there are some concerns about this event, and I had mine at first. After watching and reading a multitude of videos and articles over the idea I have changed my opinion to fully support this. And if I can get someone I know to go with me I am very, very seriously considering going to this event. It will NEVER be a good time, how much longer do we wait? Are you going to wait to stand up untill they are knocking on your door? Please look into this event before you draw conclusions.

Offline Ryan182

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Re: Independance Day Open Carry March on D.C.
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2013, 10:49:40 AM »
If you believe the constitution is the supreme law of the land, and you look at the Heller decision. DC police would be the ones acting illegally if they made us turn around and not enter. If you read above this is not advocating or encouraging violent illegal activity.

Offline Ryan182

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Re: Independance Day Open Carry March on D.C.
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2013, 03:02:41 PM »
All who attend this march armed will be asked to stand and move in a military formation in order to maintain unity and safety. You will be expected to be dressed professionally, and there will be an inspection. As organizer, AVTM reserves the right to reject anyone from the formation at any time for any reason. There will be no use of recording devices by anyone once they have joined the ranks. If you'd like to film or photograph, please do so from outside the formation so there is no potential for confusion with hand motions. If you are not ACTIVE law enforcement, you will be asked to leave if you have any firearms other than a single rifle or shotgun slung across your back with the muzzle pointed down. Aside from adjusting the sling, you will not touch your weapon at any time during this event.

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Independance Day Open Carry March on D.C.
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2013, 03:14:47 PM »
We are allowing this thread. This event arguably violates 2 of our forum rules.

We are not affiliated with this event and suggest anyone who considers participating in it consult an attorney about potential criminal liability.

Let's keep the discussion about the event and not what type if firearms that are being used.
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Offline hubblejj

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Re: Independance Day Open Carry March on D.C.
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2013, 03:15:26 PM »
At first when I heard abou this event I thought that it would not go anywhere, I just thought that Adam was blowing some smoke.  Then when I realized that it is for real I thought, holy cow this is crazy.  Now like you the more I learn about it the more I agree with it and think that it could accually work.   

Lets just hope that it does not go sideways.
When the Government fears the people you have Freedom, When the people fear the Government you have Tyranny

Offline Ryan182

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Re: Independance Day Open Carry March on D.C.
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2013, 03:28:48 PM »
We are allowing this thread. This event arguably violates 2 of our forum rules.

We are not affiliated with this event and suggest anyone who considers participating in it consult an attorney about potential criminal liability.

Let's keep the discussion about the event and not what type if firearms that are being used.


I believe that is all more then fair. Thank you for allowing it to stay I appreciate it.

Offline Ryan182

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Re: Independance Day Open Carry March on D.C.
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2013, 03:50:59 PM »
At first when I heard abou this event I thought that it would not go anywhere, I just thought that Adam was blowing some smoke.  Then when I realized that it is for real I thought, holy cow this is crazy.  Now like you the more I learn about it the more I agree with it and think that it could accually work.   

Lets just hope that it does not go sideways.

Agreed, the first few days after I heard of this event I was skeptical, apprehensive, and was not sure it was the right time. I was almost certain it would end negativley. I have recently watched and read a multitude of videos and articles about this event. Some from Mr. Kokesh himself, from those who support him, as well as a number of people who completely disagree with the idea. The possibility of something very negative to happen, are well, possible. But if thousends of free law abiding good american people can manage to walk onto Washington and show the Gov that they still preserve the values and spirit of our forefathers and they we will not be intimidated into quiet submission. Think of how much real good can be done for not just firearm rights but all civil rights the Gov has been slowly encroaching upon. This event is, as you can see above and through you own research going to be a very well thought out, organized and peaceable. With utmost point being safety and being peaceable. I encourage all who can muster it to join us. Come stand with Liberty.     

Offline Jeff

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Re: Independance Day Open Carry March on D.C.
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2013, 04:27:15 PM »
I still feel that there is great potential for things to go poorly and have someone purposely do something to cause an incident.  I hope no such thing happens and that all goes well.

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Re: Independance Day Open Carry March on D.C.
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2013, 05:50:04 PM »
It appears the DC police chief thinks this is a laughable event. She adds they may meet marchers on the bridge. Careful what you ask for lady. ::)

She added they are not worried because past calls for 2A marches on DC have amounted to nothing. She's probably right - but it would be great to see a million people show up legally transporting their firearms into DC.
Then she'd have to explain how crime actually went down, even with a million law-abiding citizens with guns in "her" town???
http://us.topnewstoday.org/us/article/5883755/
« Last Edit: May 18, 2013, 06:04:18 PM by Glock9mmOldStyle »
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