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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 03:36:25 PM »
Dan,

Glad to know I'm not the only sick bastard watching/listening at work.

I'm watching the raw feed from here: http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/zimmerman-trial-liveday-1-live-opening-statements-theories-of-the-case/

Andrew Branca's analysis is great.
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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 09:14:14 PM »
I got about 98% of everything on the fox feed.

I think there is a lot more coming out in support of him.

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2013, 07:00:11 PM »
Today was a pretty good day.  Defense went toward evidence contamination a little bit (SPD fubared the body), and the defense showed forensic photos taken at the police station showing marks, abrasions, lacerations, and multiple lumps already forming on Zimmerman's head shortly after being attacked.

The prosecution's first eye witness of the trial, Bahadoor, didn't remember very many details about her meetings with investigators or the prosecutor's office, but her testimony and details of that night become clearer after those meetings.  Believable?  It also sounds like Bahadoor's sister gave the exact same deposition testimony as she did, but the sister was never downstairs according to her and didn't have the same view. Also, Bahadoor changed her story about the figures fighting. First they were erect, then she couldn't say whether they might have been down, one on top of another?

Bahadoor was also pro-"Justice For Trayvon" on facebook and signed the "Prosecute Zimmerman, The Killer of Trayvon Martin" petition on Change.org.  She didn't like that pointed out to her and prosecutor de la Rionda got pissed!  LOL.

Today took too long.  Prosecutors were supposed to call Rachel "Dee Dee" Jeantel today.  I want to see the defense cross on her!   This is her deposition/interview with the prosecution.

Wow.



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You’ll never get the 22 minutes back again, but you’ve come this far….

It’s amazing really to pause and reflect upon the fact THIS, this conversation, this interview, is the ONLY evidence that created the probable cause affidavit and led to the arrest of George Zimmerman. The entire case is established around this. And yet, she’ll never reach the Witness Stand….
She lied under oath here, more than once.  If the prosecution doesn't call her, I bet West/O'Mara will and point out that she was supposed to be the prosecution's star witness.

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2013, 10:30:54 PM »
The State's witnesses, for the most part, appear to have been anything but useful for the State, especially on cross.
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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2013, 08:21:35 AM »
The State's witnesses, for the most part, appear to have been anything but useful for the State, especially on cross.

So far they seem to be helping the defense more than the prosecution.

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2013, 08:45:33 AM »
So far they seem to be helping the defense more than the prosecution.

Popcorn worthy events, indeed!
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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2013, 09:41:21 AM »
Oh man, Jane Surdyka is quite the drama queen on the call.
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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2013, 10:11:08 AM »
She's a freakin' basket case.  How long did she keep the 911 dispatcher on for,  like twenty or thirty minutes?  He's not your best friend.

Surdyka is making the same mistake Dee Dee made, assuming the higher-pitched voice is a kid. Zimmerman's normal voice is high, and under stress any man can sound like a girl screaming. Listen to the many police dash cam videos of policemen screaming.  She also heard three gunshots.  Nice.

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2013, 10:49:00 AM »
Surdyka said the first voice was loud and aggressive. Trayvon's girlfriend said Trayvon confronted the other man...  Surdyka said person on top was wearing darker clothes. Trayvon was wearing a dark hoodie that night.  Surdyka said she never saw pictures of Zimmerman's injuries on the news.

She states Zimmerman was on top and would have shot Trayvon in the back. She states she saw the entire thing, including the three gunshots. She saw no muzzle blast (flashes of light) despite it being totally dark out and the person on the bottom (Trayvon) never moved after being shot face-down.

She insists she heard three shots and watched it happen while on the phone.

She bases her assumptions about who was the aggressor on the higher-pitched voice being the victim.  We all know Zimmerman has a high pitched voice anyway.  West was leading into that in cross.

Great witness for the prosecution. LOL.

On re-direct prosecutor de la Rionda is discrediting his own witness. She said it was pouring down rain. He disagrees.

What a mess.

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2013, 10:55:35 AM »
She's a freakin' basket case.  How long did she keep the 911 dispatcher on for,  like twenty or thirty minutes?  He's not your best friend.

Surdyka is making the same mistake Dee Dee made, assuming the higher-pitched voice is a kid. Zimmerman's normal voice is high, and under stress any man can sound like a girl screaming. Listen to the many police dash cam videos of policemen screaming.  She also heard three gunshots.  Nice.

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Dan,

Some of Andrew's tweets are friggin comedy gold!
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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2013, 10:56:00 AM »
Didn't she also say the man with the darker or blackish clothes was on top?

+1 for basket case

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2013, 11:01:32 AM »
Didn't she also say the man with the darker or blackish clothes was on top?

+1 for basket case

And she thought that Zimmerman was wearing dark clothing.
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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2013, 11:15:08 AM »
Jeannee Manalo is going to get ripped up on cross after her comment about saying Zimmerman was on top after watching the news.
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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2013, 11:23:04 AM »
Manalo: Person on top "just hitting down" on other person.

Prosecution in panic.

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2013, 11:25:31 AM »
This looks like the who works in IT thread. :)

A job in front of a computer can have it's benefits.

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2013, 11:26:58 AM »
Some of Andrew's tweets are friggin comedy gold!

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2013, 11:28:05 AM »
This looks like the who works in IT thread. :)

A job in front of a computer can have it's benefits.

I'm in a conference call with Detroit and Kansas City right now.  Sucks trying to pay attention to both and respond to questions on the phone! Hahaha....

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2013, 11:32:12 AM »
I'm in a conference call with Detroit and Kansas City right now.  Sucks trying to pay attention to both and respond to questions on the phone! Hahaha....

"Hey, uhh, Dan? Why are you laughing your ass off over there?"
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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2013, 11:33:45 AM »
This looks like the who works in IT thread. :)

A job in front of a computer can have it's benefits.

And in my case, I also have a fat pipe to the interwebz, too (multiple 10Gig lines down to 350 Cermak)!
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