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Offline bigt8261

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #100 on: July 06, 2013, 09:14:37 AM »
Just ask those in Fort Hood how well the 5.7 worked.

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #101 on: July 06, 2013, 10:48:36 AM »
I dunno... 5.7 is pretty good at killing aliens.... from space of course.  :D
I think it's unlawful to kill aliens, regardless or where you're killing them from. Either space or from
Terra firma.
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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #102 on: July 06, 2013, 11:36:56 AM »
Trolling with style, I see

It is even funnier if you know that is his preferred EDC round.   ;D

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #103 on: July 06, 2013, 12:35:39 PM »
I think it's unlawful to kill aliens, regardless or where you're killing them from. Either space or from
Terra firma.

Doesn't that depend on if they are legal or illegal aliens?  ::)
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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #104 on: July 07, 2013, 09:44:19 PM »
5.7x28.  You can't hurt anyone with that round.
One of those deadly 2.2mm rounds they found in England :)

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #105 on: July 08, 2013, 01:47:45 AM »
It is even funnier if you know that is his preferred EDC round.   ;D

The FsN is at the top of my want list since I am FNH fan boy.  I wish I would have gotten one and a few k rounds before sandy hook.

There is a new gen Five-seveN. I haven't seen one in person yet, though.

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #106 on: July 08, 2013, 01:49:15 AM »

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #107 on: July 08, 2013, 02:37:54 AM »
I remember not voting for one of those guys :)

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #108 on: July 08, 2013, 10:22:54 AM »
This morning the prosecution tried to make it seem as though an IWB holster was somehow sinister. In a NO OC STATE nonetheless!


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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #109 on: July 08, 2013, 01:41:59 PM »
This morning the prosecution tried to make it seem as though an IWB holster was somehow sinister. In a NO OC STATE nonetheless!

Which witness was this? I missed that & would like to go back & heart it.

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #110 on: July 08, 2013, 02:35:04 PM »
Yes, prosecution was insinuating hiding your gun was bad, shooting right handed when you write left handed was bad, shooting center mass was bad, carrying a fully loaded gun was bad, carrying with one in the pipe was bad, and carrying a gun without an external safety was bad.


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Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #111 on: July 08, 2013, 03:35:23 PM »
Headline: Prosecutor advocates for legalization of OC!
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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #112 on: July 08, 2013, 05:31:47 PM »
Headline: Prosecutor advocates for legalization of OC!

lol, good one. 

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #113 on: July 09, 2013, 12:05:40 PM »
The guy who literally wrote the book on gunshot wounds and is one of the foremost forensic pathologists in the country is testifying this morning. He just stated that he could reach into your chest, rip your heart out, and you would still be capable of voluntary movement for 10 - 15 seconds minimum. One case he saw was a point blank 12-gauge shotgun blast to the chest that shredded the guy's heart. The guy turned around and ran 75 feet before he collapsed.

In Trayvon's case, as long as his brain was receiving oxygen, he was capable of movement. The 10 - 15 seconds is a reserve AFTER new oxygen flow stops. He flatly stated Trayvon could easily pull his arms from outside his body back underneath him. The only way to stop someone instantly is to shoot them in the brain. SWAT knows this, that's why they shoot them there.

Expert is talking about head injuries now.  When head hits concrete, concrete doesn't yield, head yields to concrete.

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #114 on: July 09, 2013, 12:17:10 PM »
Expert: you can get severe head trauma without ever getting an outside injury.  We see skull fractures with no outside visible injury.

Lacerations from flat surfaces just show how bad the impact was.

Additional blows compound the head trauma.  People die from compound trauma.

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #116 on: July 09, 2013, 03:40:11 PM »
Wow, wow, wow!  Defense wrapping up!  Last witness.  Some evidence proffers, then be done tomorrow!

I did not expect this!

ETA: My understanding was that the last witness today was the last, so I stopped watching live. I just read where O'Mara said she was only the last today, and that he had more tomorrow. I guess I misunderstood earlier.  As did everyone else!
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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #117 on: July 09, 2013, 07:08:48 PM »
After 7 PM, court still in session arguing evidence admissibility.

Judge is an idiot, saying Trayvon is right-handed so couldn't throw a left-handed punch.  Mark O'Mara having to explain to Judge Debra Nelson as if she were a four year old.  Correction: a four year old with an IQ of 70.

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #118 on: July 09, 2013, 07:56:01 PM »
Judge says animation recreation would have more weight to jury than witness testimony so she is leery of admitting it.

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Re: Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?
« Reply #119 on: July 09, 2013, 09:24:41 PM »
Judge says animation recreation would have more weight to jury than witness testimony so she is leery of admitting it.

Mantei grossly distorting testimony now.

My guess is judge will not allow animation during trial as evidence. It won't hurt defense. If she allows it during closing arguments, though, it might even be better (even though prosecution would get the final word).

8 PM.

Defense wants to introduce Trayvon's pictures and text messages that the prosecution hid regarding Trayvon and acquiring/owning guns. Also Trayvon's fighting, the effects of that fighting on him, his thoughts on winning and losing rounds, etc. and his strategy on fighting in the future, brother asking him to teach him to fight...

Judge is arguing about the prosecution hiding it. She doesn't care that it was hidden, she just wants to see the evidence.

Cell phone forensics expert testifying for judge now. 8:26PM

Cell phone forensics expert testifying that Trayvon Martin had special app to protect data about guns, fighting, etc. Not standard Android.

9:17 PM, cell phone forensic witness dismissed.  Now on to Rachel "Dee Dee" "Diamond Eugene" Jeantel!

Defense is showing how she lied under oath, and that Trayvon admitted to her to fighting a lot and winning.