Anyone watching the Zimmerman trial?

[gryphon]

I don't understand Judge Brenda Nelson. She can't be stupid and have achieved her position. She also has a decent reputation, I think, although I haven't researched it very much, just read some ancillary comments.

Although she has been bending over backward for the prosecution during the first phase, she seems to be granting the defense some measure of consideration during its phase. Whether it is fear of appeal on procedural grounds, etc. I do not know.

Nevertheless, sometimes she seems like she has so little understanding of facts and arguments she has to be talked to as if she were a child. She puzzles me. At the risk of sounding sexist, I can't imagine a male judge behaving like her.

Strong summation by West, going back to Florida Constitution and the US Constitution as well as SOCTUS decision not to exclude reliable and trustworthy evidence to guarantee his constitutional rights.

West has consistently been impressive.

John Guy says that Trayvon talking about "fighting" might really be code for something else, not fighting at all.

And he gets even more absurd!  The basic argument is that this would be prejudicial against Trayvon.

[gryphon]

West is demanding sanctions against BDLR for withholding evidence at the end of this trial!

[gryphon]

9:54 PM

Judge Brenda Nelson: any seven year old can break two levels of password protection and send text messages on someone else's phone, [over and over, in a lengthy thread.]

West: State has withheld evidence and we caught them.  It's simply unfair to forbid Mr. Zimmerman from presenting his evidence when they had this in January and we didn't discover it until June.  It is against the Florida and US Constitutions.

Nelson recesses at 9:56 PM.  Walks out of court room while defense is speaking.

[Jeff]

West has consistently been impressive.

And he tells master quality knock-knock jokes 

[gryphon]

And he tells master quality knock-knock jokes 

At first that threw me.  Now I'm a big fan.   He pretended it was a clumsy attempt at humor.  Don West doesn't do anything that isn't carefully calculated. 

[jgillmanjr]

Wow, State is now trying to argue Murder 3?

What the hell.

[Donut]

What a redicolius mess. child abuse?  What really scares me is that the Florida sun must be affecting some way,,,,"Kayley Anthany "

[gryphon]

Recess for lunch, and defense will be preparing argument against child abuse murder 3.  Anyone want to guess what Nelson will rule?

Edit: judge rules no Murder 3.

[Donut]

She dropped it

[TheQ]

The prosecution must feel that they are going to lose the case. Otherwise they wouldn't have tried to include this lesser offense.

[gryphon]

They wanted to go all the way down to Aggravated Assault this morning, but then realized they couldn't by law since Trayvon died.

[TheQ]

They wanted to go all the way down to Aggravated Assault this morning, but then realized they couldn't by law since Trayvon died.

Why not throw in a parking violation too?

[gryphon]

Don't give them ideas.  They will go back to the reconstruction and find out Zimmerman was parked illegally.

[jgillmanjr]

Bwahahaha

Andrew Branca, LOSD ‏@LawSelfDefense 17s
#zimmermantrial Rumored: Mantei, Guy forgot ammo, pass note to defense, "You guys have any more of theat S&B?" Defense shakes head sadly.

[gryphon]

Andrew Branca, LOSD‏@LawSelfDefense
#zimmermantrial BDLR: "Rachel Jeantel is a human being." Objection, facts not in evidence.

[gryphon]

Apparently someone needs to tell the state prosecutor he needs to remove all reasonable doubt instead of creating it.

[gryphon]

Zimmerman Jury Instructed To Find Him Guilty Of Something

SANFORD, Florida (BHN) - In obvious anticipation of George ZImmerman being likely found innocent of murder charges, Judge Debra Nelson ruled Thursday that the jury will now have the option to convict Zimmerman of any number of lesser charges, including manslaughter, slavery, excessive noise (gunshot), personal property damage (hoodie), public property damage (head hitting sidewalk), littering (Trayvon), and felony screaming like a girl.

The defense unsuccessfully objected to the additional charges, as well as the fact that all jurors are now wearing hoodies.

On a lighter note, a Zimmerman defense attorney was chided by the judge for agreeing with the prosecution's demand of "justice for Trayvon" by suggesting they "dig up his body and shoot him again."

[Jeff]

littering (Trayvon)

LoL...wow man just wow!

I think his mancard should be revoked for carrying a wimpy 9mm though, I mean if it doesn't start with a "4" it isn't big enough.

[TheQ]

LoL...wow man just wow!

I think his mancard should be revoked for carrying a wimpy 9mm though, I mean if it doesn't start with a "4" it isn't big enough.

Easy -- I carry a 9x19. Lets not start a caliber war. It's better than the pea shooter gryphon carries (g)

[gryphon]

9 isn't a caliber.  It is 38 caliber.   (Actually .355, but who's counting?) 

And Jeff, don't make me cite the tool Yeager.   

Back to the topic at hand...

In tomorrow's closing argument, O'Mara should sit on that dummy and pound it for 40 seconds so the jury can see how long a 40 second beating actually is.