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Offline Xpiatio

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The problem with big hands
« on: December 12, 2013, 08:32:44 PM »
I was looking at 3 guns for my next purchase.  Initially I was going to OC my PX4 Storm and CC a smaller gun. Initially I was thinking of these (all of which had a some sort of recall when they first came out)

Springfield XD-s
S&W Shield
Beretta PX4 Storm Sub-compact

My boss CC's the shield and let me hold it today.  So today I have to redo my list.  My big hands were just way too big for the Shield. I had trouble fitting both my middle and ring finger below the trigger. They grip was not secure enough. So right now I'm thinking about:

S&W MP Compact
Beretta PX4 Storm Compact

Knowing that a gun size equivalent to the Shield is just too small and that I want to spend between 500 to 600. Wanting to stick with 9mm.  What else would you recommend I check out?

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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2013, 08:59:22 PM »
Not having held any of those I can't speak to comparisons, but I will tell you that the crop of newer "easily concealable" pistols is crap IMO.  The grips are way too small if you don't use the extended magazines, and that defeats the purpose of the cut down grip.  But many people freak out over "printing" and take hack saws to Glock 19s and such.  It's just stupid beyond belief.

My back-up is a Kahr K40 and I can put my entire hand on the grip.  Don't know how a K9 compares, but I think they are similar.  I don't have HUGE hands, though, so YMMV.

Your best bet is to go into a store with a large selection, like Guns Galore in Fenton, and try them all out.

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Re: The problem with big hands
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2013, 09:01:41 PM »
Theres a Gun and Knife show happening in Grand Rapids this coming weekend.  Should be great time to compare sizes. *that's what she said

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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2013, 09:03:51 PM »
Not to much experience with a 9mm but I just bought ruger1911 for under 700 out the door.  I absolutely love it. Just under a 1000 rounds through it and not a single hiccup.  My only other firearms are a glock 22 and 21 and love them as well.  OCing them is easy, considering their size.   Best of luck. If you live near silver bullet firearms in grands rapids visit the store. They have a huge selection of firearms. I have always been treated nice there and they allow OC.


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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2013, 09:04:32 PM »

Theres a Gun and Knife show happening in Grand Rapids this coming weekend.  Should be great time to compare sizes. *that's what she said
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Re: The problem with big hands
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2013, 09:12:57 PM »
I wish I had bigger hands.  If what "they" say is true......
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2013, 09:23:57 PM »

I wish I had bigger hands.  If what "they" say is true......
Thought that was feet


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Re: The problem with big hands
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2013, 09:43:20 PM »
Thought that was feet

Doing it with your feet?  Kinky.   :o

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Re: The problem with big hands
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2013, 01:48:50 AM »
Doing it with your feet?  Kinky.   :o

Never heard of a foot fetis?  :P
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Re: The problem with big hands
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2013, 09:51:31 AM »
My recommendations are

Sig SP222
Glock 19 Gen4 or 3

Both are about the same size. The glock is a little more money but is 5oz lighter when loaded.
 

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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2013, 10:20:03 AM »

Never heard of a foot *fetish*?  :P

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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2013, 10:20:51 AM »

My recommendations are

Sig SP222
Glock 19 Gen4 or 3

Both are about the same size. The glock is a little more money but is 5oz lighter when loaded.

Why stop at Glock 19? I own a Glock 17...full sized.
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Re: The problem with big hands
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2013, 10:44:03 AM »
To me it's all about philosophy of use (POU). My XD-S fits my hand without a grip extension, but just barely. It's not as comfortable as a full size gun, but it works, and that's the point. I don't have a small gun for comfort in my hand, I have it for comfort inside my waistband and ease of concealment. It's not my ideal gun for a fight, but it helps me carry more and into more places.

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Re: The problem with big hands
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2013, 10:53:15 AM »
Because Glock 19 bigger number then 17.  It two better. waugh-waugh-waugh-waugh

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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2013, 02:02:30 PM »
I understand philosophy of use. But having one finger below the trigger isn't good for aim or control.  For me its a safety issue.  Personally I would sacrifice size for ease of mind.  Knowing I can hit my target and minimizing risk of anyone outside of my target.

Besides, we know 2 fingers are better than 1.

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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2013, 02:06:19 PM »
All admirable goals.

It sounded in the OP as though you were looking for a good backup or BUG. To me a backup is likely only going to be used a very close range. Your POU may vary. :)

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Re: The problem with big hands
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2013, 03:53:43 PM »
Why stop at Glock 19? I own a Glock 17...full sized.

Because he was looking at compacts. Recommending a 17 would be as logical as recommending a 1911, it's not what he was looking for.  :P

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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2013, 06:53:21 PM »

Because he was looking at compacts. Recommending a 17 would be as logical as recommending a 1911, it's not what he was looking for.  :P
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Re: The problem with big hands
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2013, 10:59:04 AM »
I might as well give you guys an update:  after drueling over the guns I wish I could get this past weekend. Gun show. Gander Mountain and Cabelas.   I've made the decision to replace my OC gun.  I was carrying Beretta PX4 Storm (full size).  Since its still in the shop.  And with Grand Rapids Gander Mountain master Gun Smith of Gander Mountain (28th street location) being diagnosed with cancer, they are shipping all guns up to Traverse City that need work (outside of cleaning).

But refocusing to the topic on hand: 

In time, my replacement for OC:  Sig SP2022. 
While I have some time before I can conceal, it gives me time to dig into my short list for a BUG:
Springfield XD-S (After actually holding it, I was able to get 2 fingers under the trigger. And yes I know about the recall)
Glock (not sure model yet)

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Re: The problem with big hands
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2013, 11:53:53 AM »
FWIW, any XDS that you see in a LGS should be updated. Look for the roll pin in the grip safety.

I just got my XDS back last week. I intend to take it to the range this week. I've heard good things about the updated versions. I hope my experience will be similar.