Partially covered outside the belt holster: open, concealed, or in violation?

[LD]

As stated above, not a gray area.

CPL instructors in general are incapable of correctly understanding, much less passing along the law.  LEO are generally worse.

Could the Sterling Heights event happened, sure, but highly unlikely.  It was more than likely made up, or it happened to someones cousin's, brother, neighbor.  Meijers makes it clear they follow state law.  A clerk wouldn't call 911, especially on a customer that is paying her bill

Read the PDF posted above.  Read the MOC tri-fold.  Attend an OC seminar.

If you stop to think about this, In the time it took for the woman to walk out of the store, the clerk would have had to leave her station, call 911, the operator would have had to dispatch an officer, and the officer would have had to respond and FIND this woman in the parking lot.

Somehow I don't think all that could have happened in the time available.

[CV67PAT]

Well only because I believe you really need to attend one of these seminars. I would be willing to drive from Kalamazoo and pick you up to go to the Flint seminar on 1-31. I work Fridays but I will take the day off to help you. The seminar starts at 7PM let me know time and place to pick you up.

Or you could go to the Novi seminar on 2-21. I see on Google maps it says Royal Oak to Novi is 19.3 miles so that is not far unless you do not have a car and once again my offer is there.

Edited to add: Or simply ask on the board if you need a ride.

That's a gracious offer TT. As you pointed out, the Novi seminar is roughly 20 miles from his location. I expect that he will neither accept your offer, nor drive the mere 20 miles.

It amazes me how those in the rural areas will drive quite a long distance, often an hour or so, to attend MOC events. But those in the urban SE Region won't drive more than 10 miles. I often get comments, especially after a seminar or eat & greet, of "when are you going to have one in my area?" This coming from someone in Sterling Hts right after a Utica event. Or from someone in Fraser right after a Roseville event. SMH

[part deux]

Maybe they could help by finding a local OC friendly establishment that would appreciate some new customers!

[TucTom]

That's a gracious offer TT. As you pointed out, the Novi seminar is roughly 20 miles from his location. I expect that he will neither accept your offer, nor drive the mere 20 miles.

I agree with you Pat. I fully expect to either get no response OR I will drive there and find nobody to pick up. But I will keep the offer up, because some people think OC'rs are unfriendly.

[karudin]

I too am thinking about going to a seminar here soon. Anyone wanting to car pool I'm in Howell.

[CV67PAT]

I too am thinking about going to a seminar here soon. Anyone wanting to car pool I'm in Howell.

We're having a meet & greet in Howell on Feb 22nd. Come on out and join us.

Info here: http://forums.michiganopencarry.org/index.php/topic,3631.0.html

You might find someone to carpool with to the Novi MOC seminar on Feb 28th.
Info here: http://forums.michiganopencarry.org/index.php/topic,3540.0.html

[karudin]

We're having a meet & greet in Howell on Feb 22nd. Come on out and join us.

Info here: http://forums.michiganopencarry.org/index.php/topic,3631.0.html

You might find someone to carpool with to the Novi MOC seminar on Feb 28th.
Info here: http://forums.michiganopencarry.org/index.php/topic,3540.0.html

Well the meet and greet in Howell is on the calendar now, so I'll be there. As far as the seminar in Novi, as long as schedule and wife permit (I have 3 kids with a 4th on the way, have to check in before planning anything haha) I'll be driving.