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BREAKING: Facebook Considering Banning Gun Related Pages
« on: March 04, 2014, 10:37:19 AM »


Facebook may announce company policy changes for gun-related pages in the coming weeks, VentureBeat has learned.

The social network has been under pressure from the powerful Mayors Against Illegal Guns and the Moms Demand Action civic group to ban gun-themed fan pages on the site.

Sources close to the conversations told VentureBeat, “Talks are progressing. The discussions are ongoing; there have been positive developments.”

http://venturebeat.com/2014/03/03/facebook-to-announce-policy-changes-on-gun-themed-pages-exclusive/

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Re: BREAKING: Facebook Considering Banning Gun Related Pages
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2014, 10:47:04 AM »
Sounds like a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about. Surprise surprise. Both the subjects of the article and the writer. They just can't get it through their head that you can't buy firearms on FB, and not because it's against policy, but because FB is not a freaking ecom site.

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Re: BREAKING: Facebook Considering Banning Gun Related Pages
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2014, 12:30:12 PM »
I would love a reply as... "blow it out your asses, I'm rich BEOTCH"

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BREAKING: Facebook Considering Banning Gun Related Pages
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2014, 04:31:37 PM »
Wouldn't this fall under freedom of speech?


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Re: BREAKING: Facebook Considering Banning Gun Related Pages
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2014, 05:23:06 PM »
No.

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Re: BREAKING: Facebook Considering Banning Gun Related Pages
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2014, 06:31:02 PM »
Wouldn't this fall under freedom of speech?


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No.

Facebook is under no obligation to provide you a medium for your freedom of speech.
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Re: BREAKING: Facebook Considering Banning Gun Related Pages
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2014, 06:39:03 PM »
The Bill of Rights only apply to protections from the government.
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Re: BREAKING: Facebook Considering Banning Gun Related Pages
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2014, 07:25:21 PM »
My intention is NOT to berate or belittle the poster who asked "Wouldn't this fall under freedom of speech?" It is a sad commentary on the education system and our society at large that our Bill of Rights is so poorly understood. I have seen and heard similar comments on facebook and in overheard conversations out and about. It's sad.  :(   
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Re: BREAKING: Facebook Considering Banning Gun Related Pages
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2014, 08:15:46 PM »
Guess I will have to see if I can find that article form a while ago where a kid made a joke about shooting up a school on FB and almost wound up in prison for it. I could have swore that it had to do with something about freedom of speech or something in that nature.

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Re: BREAKING: Facebook Considering Banning Gun Related Pages
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2014, 09:22:50 PM »
Having the right to say something is not the same thing as having the right to say something in a private place or on a private board.

I have the right to say I think everyone should open carry a long gun.  I don't have a right to say that here on the MOC forum.  MOC and facebook can make any rules they wish.

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Re: BREAKING: Facebook Considering Banning Gun Related Pages
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2014, 08:04:56 AM »
wish we could find out when the next MDAGA meeting in michigan is :) have a OC lunch or dinner that day

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Re: BREAKING: Facebook Considering Banning Gun Related Pages
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2014, 08:30:57 AM »
They generally get together at a church in Lansing. From pics I've seen there are about 5-10 of them. I keep trolling their FB page now and then to see if they post info for another meeting.

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Re: BREAKING: Facebook Considering Banning Gun Related Pages
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2014, 09:11:42 AM »
OFC they pick a PFZ. because that will make them safe. until a bad guy who ignores the PFZ opens fire with a gatling gun thats backpack mounted!

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Re: BREAKING: Facebook Considering Banning Gun Related Pages
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2014, 01:41:58 PM »
Ummm...that not what MDA is saying.

Moms Demand Action Applauds Major Moves by Facebook, Instagram to Prevent Illegal Gun Sales on Their Sites
NEW POLICIES FOLLOW MOMS’ CAMPAIGN
Facebook announced today that the company and its popular photo-sharing subsidiary Instagram will take significant steps to block potentially illegal firearm sales through their platforms. For the first time, the sites will delete reported posts offering to buy or sell guns without background checks – a key indicator that users may be seeking to avoid the life-saving checks that bar minors, felons, the seriously mentally ill and other dangerous people from buying guns. The sites will also block users under the age of 18 from viewing reported private gun sales posts from individual sellers and any pages used primarily for private gun offers.

http://momsdemandaction.org/in-the-news/facebook-listened/

  • Facebook will block all children (under 18) from viewing reported posts from individual gun sellers or gun pages where guns are sold or traded.
  • Facebook will allow users to report posts that may facilitate or promote potentially illegal gun activity.
  • Facebook will delete reported posts that indicate that the seller will not conduct a background check or that a buyer is seeking to avoid a background check.
  • Facebook will delete reported posts that indicate that a seller is willing to sell across state lines.
  • Facebook will continue to report to law enforcement any gun-related posts that may pose a threat to public safety.
  • Facebook will require private sellers who are reported for offering a gun for sale to acknowledge the relevant laws that apply to them – including that background checks may be required before completing a sale. These sellers will be blocked by Facebook from continuing to the site until they acknowledge this policy.
  • All Facebook Pages and groups must prominently state that sellers and buyers must comply with all applicable laws, including conducting a background check where required.
  • Facebook will take down reported pages and groups where guns are sold until the owner of the page acknowledges this policy and includes this information prominently at the top of the page. Facebook’s Help Center will remind sellers that they may conduct background checks for safety purposes even where not legally required.
  • When someone searches on Instagram for a hashtag related to gun offers (e.g. #guns4sale) they will be required to acknowledge the relevant laws that apply to them in this area before they see search results.
  • Facebook will provide public education ad space targeted at users interested in firearm-related content to ensure they know about the laws related to gun sales. Moms Demand Action and Mayors Against Illegal Guns will provide content for these ads.
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Re: BREAKING: Facebook Considering Banning Gun Related Pages
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2014, 01:59:10 PM »
since all my gun pages on FB are either shops or groups like MOC wont be an issue :) all my sales or purchasing is legal and follows the law