So MCRGO doesn't support Open Carry?

[detroit_fan]

MCRGO is doing a set of OC pieces on their FB page again, and Brady posted this-

 "Please note that MCRGO as a coalition is neutral on the concept of open carry."


How can this be? How can one of the major gun rights groups in MI not support 1 of the 2 legal forms of handgun carry? They are doing joint picnics with us, helping with court cases, and I know Brady supports OC, so what is stopping them from "supporting" OC officially?

Personally, I think it makes us look a little silly to be holding joint events with them when they don't even officially support what we stand for.
And please don't tell me "neutral doesn't mean they don't support it. "

[Jeff]

I hear a lot of people talking about supporting gun rights, and that however you carry and whatever you carry is fine because at least you're carrying.  Then later have them bash open carry or say things like they have no opinion on it.

Many of them are quick to blame OC for every problem there is with businesses and bad images of gun owners.  I think they should support whatever is legal and quit turning their backs on the OC crowd.  And honestly, if everyone started open carrying, it would soon be so common that nobody would care.  So many people don't realize how many guns are in the buildings because most of them are concealed carrying.  If people actually knew how many people actually carried firearms they would get desensitized and not worry so much when they saw a legal firearm.

[bigt8261]

My guess is that Brady meant to say that MCRGO is neutral on a preferred form of carry.

[bigt8261]

Yep, here is a reply from MCRGO:

By neutral, we mean that MCRGO shows no preference for one method of carry over the other. MCRGO strongly supports retaining open carry as a legal method of carry in Michigan. MCRGO hasn't been shy about covering issues related to open carry. In fact, MCRGO is more likely to discuss long gun open carry than even most open carry groups are.

[detroit_fan]

Thank you for clarification Tom. Very happy to see that

[Brady]

Yeah, I messed up my language.  It's a Monday in disguise.  I blame it on doing too many things at the same time and Facebook not allowing groups to edit initial posts like they do on personal Facebook pages.

[TheQ]

Yeah, I messed up my language.  It's a Monday in disguise.  I blame it on doing too many things at the same time and Facebook not allowing groups to edit initial posts like they do on personal Facebook pages.

They changed that recently. You can change your OP, though you may have to do that from the full website.

[Brady]

What's an OP?  I don't see the option on my page controls?

[TheQ]

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[SD40VE]

brady is here! ahhhhh run!!! 

[Brady]

LOL.  I don't come on this forum until Phil tells me to.

[SD40VE]

must be something big if phil is having you come on the forum!

[Shadow Bear]

Neutral seems pretty clear to me; exhibiting no preference, one way or the other.

I see some folks go off on MOC when they come out as neutral on a pending piece of legislation. Neutral means just what it means....it's not a bad thing; it's just 'neutral'...

[TexasSupporter]

Ok, it's time then for me to come out and clarify my position on OC as well:

James, from Dallas, Texas STRONGLY SUPPORTS the Open Carry of firearms.

Because if not, I might as well just stand upon the graves of the Founders, rip the Constitution to shreds, and burn the American flag for good measure...

[SD40VE]

Ok, it's time then for me to come out and clarify my position on OC as well:

James, from Dallas, Texas STRONGLY SUPPORTS the Open Carry of firearms.

Because if not, I might as well just stand upon the graves of the Founders, rip the Constitution to shreds, and burn the American flag for good measure...

make sure to bring a fire extinguisher 

[CV67PAT]

Ok, it's time then for me to come out and clarify my position on OC as well:

James, from Dallas, Texas STRONGLY SUPPORTS the Open Carry of firearms.

Because if not, I might as well just stand upon the graves of the Founders, rip the Constitution to shreds, and burn the American flag for good measure...

I will defend to my death your right to burn the flag of the United States. But do it in my presence and it will be your death that is celebrated.

[TexasSupporter]

I will defend to my death your right to burn the flag of the United States. But do it in my presence and it will be your death that is celebrated.

Slow down there Pat, and re-read my post haha.  I'm not liking having you threaten me with death, especially since the way you wrote it makes it appear to readers that I would actually burn the American flag - or accept the burning of the flag.  I think I made it very clear in my post that I find "standing on the graves of Founders"... "ripping up the Constitution"... and "burning the American flag" all abhorrent, in fact.  So threatening me with death for an act I didn't even promote - then proclaiming you'll celebrate my death - is a bit strange.  Hope you're nicer in person.

[Jeff]

Slow down there Pat, and re-read my post haha.  I'm not liking having you threaten me with death, especially since the way you wrote it makes it appear to readers that I would actually burn the American flag - or accept the burning of the flag.  I think I made it very clear in my post that I find "standing on the graves of Founders"... "ripping up the Constitution"... and "burning the American flag" all abhorrent, in fact.  So threatening me with death for an act I didn't even promote - then proclaiming you'll celebrate my death - is a bit strange.  Hope you're nicer in person.

Pat wouldn't hurt anyone... except for SD40VE

[SD40VE]

 

[bigt8261]

I feel another clarification is in order. Please note this portion of the quote from MCRGO:

MCRGO strongly supports retaining open carry as a legal method of carry in Michigan.

They just don't show a preference in method of carry.

MOC strongly support concealed carry, but as an organization, we promote open carry.