Author Topic: cops called again (Read 14901 times)

birddseedd · « **on:** June 07, 2014, 07:01:52 PM »

Cops were called on me again today, they were completely utterly disinterested in me. If the cops in california or texas saw me (in one of those states) i would have been hauled off to jail.

gryphon · « **Reply #1 on:** June 07, 2014, 08:04:48 PM »

Quote from: birddseedd on June 07, 2014, 07:01:52 PM

Cops were called on me again today

What did you do?

birddseedd · « **Reply #2 on:** June 07, 2014, 08:24:08 PM »

Quote from: gryphon on June 07, 2014, 08:04:48 PM

What did you do?

Opencarry at library

Jeff · « **Reply #3 on:** June 07, 2014, 08:46:28 PM »

They were not interested in you at all, so that is a good thing right?

birddseedd · « **Reply #4 on:** June 07, 2014, 09:02:06 PM »

Quote from: Jeff on June 07, 2014, 08:46:28 PM

They were not interested in you at all, so that is a good thing right?

Yea, it is. One tried to say something about federal law, clearly talking out of his rear end. another asked if i had a ccw. that was pretty much the end of it. I actually walked back after i had crossed the road and saw them pull up. told them i didnt want to show people the impression of a guy with a guy who leaves as soon as the cops pull up. Darth vader was there also.

autosurgeon · « **Reply #5 on:** June 08, 2014, 12:18:04 PM »

What library where?

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birddseedd · « **Reply #6 on:** June 08, 2014, 10:09:02 PM »

downtown kalamazoo

harleyh77 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 17, 2014, 04:11:30 PM »

The article on mlive makes it sound like it was a much bigger ordeal than it sounds. http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2014/06/man_with_gun_at_kalamazoo_libr.html

birddseedd · « **Reply #8 on:** June 17, 2014, 08:06:50 PM »

Yea. it was crazy. The cops were completely disinterested. I did speak with mlive. did a phone interview, made a video statement and a picture of me ragged looking at work.

I sure hope i didnt say anything stupid.

bigt8261 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 17, 2014, 08:56:01 PM »

No you shouldn't sue. You don't have a case.

You might be able to get an injunction against them enforcing their policy, but I recommend you save the $$$.

Whatever you do, STOP TALKING ABOUT SUING in the comments of an article, and if you do plan to sue STOP TALKING ALTOGETHER.

birddseedd · « **Reply #10 on:** June 17, 2014, 09:51:04 PM »

I agree. suing would not really accomplish anything. just give me a bad image. this will go away on its own. i mean, its not like i havnt open carried there before. this time there just happened to be a guy there (with a anti child abuse t shirt) that didnt like my gun. hint, he is the one that made a stink to the staff.

gryphon · « **Reply #11 on:** June 18, 2014, 10:29:16 AM »

I was driving back to MI yesterday afternoon and tuned in The Jeremy Lawrence Show on WKZO 590 AM. He brought up this incident and mentioned MOC a lot, and Rob Harris several times. He kept saying there has to be a middle ground, and he was obviously trying to steer the conversation to CC without saying it. He also might have mischaracterized the incident, as it didn't exactly match up to what has been presented here (which is not very much).

birddseedd · « **Reply #12 on:** June 18, 2014, 10:38:34 AM »

I don't know why this has been so blown up. There was a guy with a gun, he left. That was pretty much it. I don't know why moc is even being mentioned. It was me and my family. I have not mentioned moc to anybody

bigt8261 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 18, 2014, 11:14:36 AM »

The reporter called MOC's medial director Rob Harris.

I have been emailing with the reporter. She is clearly an anti with no interest in doing research. She is a hack and you are feeding her and the trolls in the comments.

There is a smart way to go about this and it is not the way you are doing it. I've been where you are now. Well meaning people who just want to help are eaten alive by the media.

In my opinion, you are too nice, forthcoming and ill prepared to be talking to the media. This is your story and if you wish to continue on, that is your choice. You have my recommendation.

birddseedd · « **Reply #14 on:** June 18, 2014, 11:33:16 AM »

You are right about one thing. I'm no public speaker. But this will blow over in a day or two and be forgotten. I'm be happy when it does and I can take my kid too another bounce house. Not jungle joe's, he won't let me have my gun there.

TheQ · « **Reply #15 on:** June 18, 2014, 03:50:39 PM »

Ok. I'm on vacation. I'm making an effort to not post in MOC groups right now.

That being said, I come here just to tell the OP: stop talking about it, please. This includes: on FB, here, and especially to the media!

I realize you're trying to help, but in this case you are dealing with a media professional who happens to be anti-gun and is a professional spinner. She even gave our media director who has a lot if experience with the media a hard time.

birddseedd · « **Reply #16 on:** June 18, 2014, 05:43:13 PM »

Yea. i agree. although i have talked with others who were way more anti gun and anti fact. but anyway, i got her to fix the article, as far as not approving of open carry groups. that statement was not written correctly, obviously. with that fixed i think ill put it all behind me. two days of drama i didn't really need. i doubt ill ever talk to the press again either. i'm not a public speaker. i do much better speaking with people one on one.

birddseedd · « **Reply #17 on:** June 19, 2014, 04:52:58 PM »

I gotta go back. They went reserve a book for me till I go in and renew my card

TheQ · « **Reply #18 on:** June 19, 2014, 05:12:27 PM »

Have fun. This time, don't capitulate, don't talk to: cops or media.

TheQ · « **Reply #19 on:** June 19, 2014, 05:12:53 PM »

And have a copy of CADL v MOC in hand.

detroit_fan · « **Reply #20 on:** June 19, 2014, 05:38:34 PM »

Quote from: TheQ on June 19, 2014, 05:12:27 PM

Have fun. This time, don't capitulate, don't talk to: cops or media.

+1

birddseedd · « **Reply #21 on:** June 20, 2014, 12:49:01 AM »

what is CADL?

birddseedd · « **Reply #22 on:** June 20, 2014, 12:50:47 AM »

oh, yea. that.

eh. i'm not worried. chances are nobody will even say anything. as is with every single time iv ever gone to the library carrying accept this one time. oh, wait, ya know. there was another one i remember now. cop didn't say anything to me. kids got to pet the dog tho.

gryphon · « **Reply #23 on:** June 20, 2014, 01:11:28 AM »

Quote from: birddseedd on June 20, 2014, 12:49:01 AM

what is CADL?

http://miopencarry.org/moc_files/cadl/CADLvMOC-AsOf-July2013/CoA-Opinion_Final.pdf

birddseedd · « **Reply #24 on:** June 20, 2014, 07:39:25 AM »

Ya know. Noone made this kind of stink when i carrked st the school

bigt8261 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 20, 2014, 08:18:13 AM »

I suggest dressing a little nicer and cleaning up a bit. Remember, when you OC, you are a face for all gun owners. Please keep this in mind.

gryphon · « **Reply #26 on:** June 20, 2014, 12:25:39 PM »

Quote from: bigt8261 on June 20, 2014, 08:18:13 AM

I suggest dressing a little nicer and cleaning up a bit. Remember, when you OC, you are a face for all gun owners. Please keep this in mind.

I agree. It may not be "fair," but you are representing others as well. Making a good impression goes a long way.

birddseedd · « **Reply #27 on:** June 20, 2014, 12:48:23 PM »

I agree and I was a little reluctant to send her picture she was pretty insistent on coming out to do it. fortunately my job involves workin in dirt. it's not usually quite so bad but I'v been doing a lot of repairs lately which involves crawling on the ground. I'm going to have to get new uniforms next year

birddseedd · « **Reply #28 on:** June 20, 2014, 01:58:33 PM »

Woo hoo. For me a new customer. I was wondering if open carry would have a negative effect on my business and getting customers. However it seems that it just doesn't people don't care.

SD40VE · « **Reply #29 on:** June 20, 2014, 03:54:27 PM »

Quote from: bigt8261 on June 20, 2014, 08:18:13 AM

I suggest dressing a little nicer and cleaning up a bit. Remember, when you OC, you are a face for all gun owners. Please keep this in mind.

lol like the time i was asked to leave best buy after a hunting day, was in all realtree

birddseedd · « **Reply #30 on:** June 20, 2014, 08:12:20 PM »

Does the pole they posted mean we win? do we get a prize?

birddseedd · « **Reply #31 on:** June 28, 2014, 04:10:22 PM »

Quote from: gryphon on June 20, 2014, 12:25:39 PM

I agree. It may not be "fair," but you are representing others as well. Making a good impression goes a long way.

Goin back, this time iv got a hair cut and shave, nice jeans and a button up shirt. i'm even wearing a fancy smancy not so cheap watch.

maybe if i look richer, they won't want me to leave?

Langenc · « **Reply #32 on:** June 29, 2014, 05:06:46 PM »

Leave a copy of CALD v MOC.. Better yet allow them to make a copy that you have. While they are making themselves a copy get them to make you and extra copy- NC.

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Author Topic: cops called again (Read 14901 times)