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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2014, 01:37:23 PM »
i suppose it comes down to use what you are comfortable and accurate with. everyone has opinions, do what you want. afterall this is america

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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2014, 02:06:10 PM »
I've never seen or even heard of 135gr. 40S&W.  The round was developed for 180gr., and there are some 165gr. and 155gr. SD loads.

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« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2014, 02:11:47 PM »
The OP likely knew (or should have knew) the mere mention of this topic would turn into a caliber holy war.
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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2014, 03:04:34 PM »
Those slightly larger stretch cavities don't mean all that much in a human.

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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2014, 03:57:39 PM »
while im sure anything above a 9mm will be sufficient for SD it will come down to a personal preference. i like my snappy 40 short and weak rounds

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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2014, 09:26:39 PM »

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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2014, 11:53:09 PM »
Not because it's better but because they wanted all the ammunition standardized and just chose .40  OBVIOUSLY because it was drawn out of a hat. 

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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #47 on: July 12, 2014, 02:48:00 PM »
I'd carry my 45 Super, but the muzzle flash keeps setting my targets on fire....
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« Reply #48 on: July 12, 2014, 03:22:14 PM »
I'd carry my 45 Super, but the muzzle flash keeps setting my targets on fire....

haha, heck yeah.  And the concussion force also makes their wimpy 9mm jam so not only do you kill their body AND soul, you also set them on fire and make their lesser caliber gun malfunction.  ;D

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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #49 on: July 14, 2014, 08:02:28 AM »
all ym sheriff buddies working for the macomb county sheriff are issued m&P 40's the few detroit police say they were issues glock 23's by the department

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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #50 on: July 14, 2014, 09:20:36 AM »
Those slightly larger stretch cavities don't mean all that much in a human.

From what I read, if you take the data of police shooting people, all calibers end up having the same leathality rate. So the only variable is shot placement.

if that is to be true, then none of the calibers are any better than the rest, its all about what gun you like and do well with and how it handles the caliber its designed for.

as i said, the .380 i shot had horrible kick, worse than guns iv shot with more powder. im sure there are some .380's that handle it as well as my 9.

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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #51 on: July 14, 2014, 09:21:43 AM »
also, .40 sucks!

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« Reply #52 on: July 14, 2014, 09:58:40 AM »
Shooting with peas is very effective too. Ask Dan Griffin :)
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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #53 on: July 14, 2014, 10:05:03 AM »
I don't know what that means.

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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #54 on: July 14, 2014, 10:28:02 AM »
my gf has a hipoint 9mm. its heavy and the slide is stupid heavy for a poly gun. however the weight makes it have what i see as virtually no recoil. my sd is more bottom heavy and has some nice muzzle flip. its the gun not the ammo that dictates shot placement. ive shot .380 that have littlerecoil as well on like no muzzle flip.

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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #55 on: July 14, 2014, 10:33:33 AM »
What is muzzle flip?

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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #56 on: July 14, 2014, 10:56:18 AM »
That's the recoil impulse that makes the muzzle of the pistol (front of the gun) rise or "flip up" up when shot, hence muzzle flip.

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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #57 on: July 14, 2014, 11:16:58 AM »
.40 is known for being "snappy" or causing great muzzle flip. i can tame it on my firearm though. making reaquisition of target quicker.

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« Reply #58 on: July 14, 2014, 02:25:03 PM »
Never herd someone call it muzzle flip instead of muzzle rize

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Re: 9mm v .45 finally settled.
« Reply #59 on: July 14, 2014, 02:31:47 PM »
most websites ive seen and article call it muzzle flip where the muzzle flips up