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Offline gryphon

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Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« on: July 01, 2014, 08:37:55 PM »
Upon arrival police spoke with the victim Krista Gearhart, age 25, from Orangeville, PA. Gearhart reported she had been shot in the right leg by a vendor demonstrating a concealed wallet holster. Vendor and owner of "In Case of Emergency" Geoffrey Hawk, age 44, from Warminster, PA reported while demonstrating a product holster he accidentally shot Gearhart in the leg.

http://bloomutoday.com/accidental-shooting-at-bloomsburg-gun-show-p2176-1.htm

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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2014, 01:13:26 PM »
Upon arrival police spoke with the victim Krista Gearhart, age 25, from Orangeville, PA. Gearhart reported she had been shot in the right leg by a vendor demonstrating a concealed wallet holster. Vendor and owner of "In Case of Emergency" Geoffrey Hawk, age 44, from Warminster, PA reported while demonstrating a product holster he accidentally shot Gearhart in the leg.

http://bloomutoday.com/accidental-shooting-at-bloomsburg-gun-show-p2176-1.htm

Well at least we know the holster works, now if the the fellow would have followed the rules of firearm safety, he may of made a sale & not a court case.... yikes! Hope the lady heals quickly.
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Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2014, 02:25:44 PM »
There is no such thing as accidental -- negligent!
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Re: Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2014, 03:30:37 PM »
There is no such thing as accidental -- negligent!

The *only* time I might consider something an accident is if there was a defect with the firearm itself, or the holster.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2014, 03:47:24 PM »
The *only* time I might consider something an accident is if there was a defect with the firearm itself, or the holster.

This is very true! Years ago there was a fellow at a MOC picnic on the west side of the state who carried a Springfield XD. It went off while he was making it ready for transport mode. IIRC, he was charged/ticketed but they were dismissed, due to his firearm being part of a very small  batch under recall from Springfield Armory for potential to discharge while being unloaded. Stuff happens, and yes, manufactures screw up from time to time.

Food for thought ... always check your gun for manufactures recalls or "safety upgrades". Just had my 23 year old G17 "voluntarily factory upgraded" with a new FCG basically on Glock's dime. Why so long? Simply wasn't informed by Glock,  as it was a voluntary program, hence no recall notice.

And no, I did not have the internet back in 1991! Lol, I don't think Glock had a website yet either, for that matter. Most PC's ran DOS back then and if you were lucky, had a 14.4k modem (think roughly 3 times slower than a old 56K modem, for those of you who know what a modem is/was). Gosh ...those were the days (not). History lesson concluded for the whipper snappers in the crowd. ;) A smart phone back then was: a payphone that knew the difference between quarters & washers! :p
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Re: Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2014, 03:56:04 PM »
I remember how bad ass I was on AOL when I told people that I had a 56k modem.

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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2014, 04:58:58 PM »
I remember how bad ass I was on AOL when I told people that I had a 56k modem.

DUDE! If that was 1996-1997ish you were indeed the MAN! I remember paying a small fortune to "upgrade" to a 33.6k modem so I could play "  DOOM" better...lol.

PS - AOL = Americans on hold. Wow that brings back bad memories. :(
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Re: Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2014, 05:27:58 PM »
LOL.  For "personal" computing, I started out with a 300 baud modem in the early 80's and had internet access a few years later.

And yes, GET OFF MY LAWN!

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Re: Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2014, 06:09:19 PM »
bunch of kids here...

75 baud acoustic coupler :)

Thought 300 baud was SCREAMING :)

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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2014, 06:57:59 PM »
bunch of kids here...

75 baud acoustic coupler :)

Thought 300 baud was SCREAMING :)

Holy crap! About the only thing slower would have been carrier pigeons and not by much. You win Sir! And yes, even Griff will stay off your lawn... (bowing making not worthy gestures)...  ;)
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Re: Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2014, 07:41:14 PM »
The *only* time I might consider something an accident is if there was a defect with the firearm itself, or the holster.

http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2014/07/police_michigan_woman_accident.html

Accident with a side of negligence?

Holy crap! About the only thing slower would have been carrier pigeons and not by much. You win Sir! And yes, even Griff will stay off your lawn... (bowing making not worthy gestures)...  ;)


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Re: Re: Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2014, 08:18:15 PM »
Holy crap! About the only thing slower would have been carrier pigeons and not by much. You win Sir! And yes, even Griff will stay off your lawn... (bowing making not worthy gestures)...  ;)
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Re: Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2014, 09:10:04 PM »
bunch of kids here...

75 baud acoustic coupler :)

Thought 300 baud was SCREAMING :)

Okay, I didn't want to have to do this...

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Re: Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2014, 10:24:22 PM »
It's going to be odd telling my great grand kids that I was alive when the first IPHONE came out. lol

I don't think I'm going to be a great grand dad though.  I'm 33 and zero kids (that I know of.... BAZING!)

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Re: Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2014, 10:28:21 PM »
I started with a Pentium MMX, a 33.6k modem, and Windows 95.  I didn't have a lawn to kick people off of until 2009.
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Re: Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2014, 10:30:29 PM »
  I'm 33 and zero kids (that I know of).
Don't be one of those.  If you have kids, you d*mn better well know of them.

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Re: Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2014, 10:36:34 PM »
Don't be one of those.  If you have kids, you d*mn better well know of them.

I was just teasing.  I do not have any children.  But I helped raise one for several years.

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Re: Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2014, 08:24:34 AM »
I started with a Pentium MMX, a 33.6k modem, and Windows 95.  I didn't have a lawn to kick people off of until 2009.
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Re: Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2014, 11:09:21 AM »
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Re: Accidental Shooting at Gun Show
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2014, 11:41:18 AM »
Well well, this turned into a contest of who has the oldest dick.
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