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Offline Jeff

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Tool time discussion
« on: July 16, 2014, 10:07:55 PM »
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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2014, 10:09:00 PM »
$150 vs $2500, for tools many of which are still made in china, then i have to try and track a sales guy down, which after 5 o clock just aint gonna happen.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2014, 10:16:26 PM »
Snap-On costs more, but you only need to buy it once.  Think of all your knuckles you would save by not having a junk ratchet slip and bust your hand open on something sharp.  Won't you PLEASE think of the children.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2014, 10:19:07 PM »
I can strip out a snap on jsut the same as a mac just the same as a craftsman. iv done it! even the cheap ones. chrome vanadium and steel only gets so hard.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2014, 10:49:13 PM »
I have never seen someone bust anything from snapon, but craftsman ALL THE TIME.  Maybe if you used some tiny ratchet with adapters to fit a huge socket to bust off a huge rusty bolt that the ratchet wasn't intended for but that would just be asking for trouble.

I have used everything I prefer snapon, but other stuff does the job too.  You would go broke fast trying to buy everything from snapon though. 

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2014, 10:51:26 PM »
Thats exactly what i did with a mac ratchet. iv done the same with craftsman. My next set will have a 1/2 driver

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2014, 11:19:09 PM »
It's always good to invest in a simple o'l breaker bar, that way you don't have to worry about ruining a ratchet.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2014, 11:27:16 PM »
Yea, i got one eventually (one of the very few tools that didnt get stolen from me recently). although there are some situations where a breaker bar just cant do it, mostly due to lack of range of motion available. yea, that.

is what 1/2 driver is for. bigger, breaks less easyishly

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2014, 08:35:37 AM »
for hand tools i like craftsman. lifetime warranty. powertools: dewalt or old milwuakee

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2014, 11:16:01 AM »
for hand tools i like craftsman. lifetime warranty. powertools: dewalt or old milwuakee

Craftsman are junk now

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2014, 11:22:57 AM »
fortunately the set that I want it is still made in America. as far as the China made tools and various brands in America.they are all made by the same Chinese company so are all basically the same thing

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2014, 12:19:30 PM »
for hand tools i like craftsman. lifetime warranty. powertools: dewalt or old milwuakee

That's because every other week you need to replace your craftsman as you walk into sears with bloody hands lol.  Isn't old milwuakee a beer? :p My power tools are Milwuakee.  I have gotten crap from people for them not being Dewalt though.


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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2014, 12:28:30 PM »
Milwaukee power tools are great.  Whoever was ragging on you for buying them are morons.  ::)

And +1 on the Craftsman tools.  Yes, they replace them, but is it worth it to have to keep going back and replacing them?  If I had a business that required them, I'd probably opt for something else.  Most of my tools are Craftsman, but they are 35-40 years old (I started buying them when I was 18) and I've only broken one 3/8" ratchet.  I also have a wide selection, including 1/2", breaker bars, etc. and don't put two foot cheater pipes on small wrenches.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2014, 12:33:06 PM »
Milwaukee power tools are great.  Whoever was ragging on you for buying them are morons.  ::)



I know, I would use either but when I started buying tools I went with Milwaukee.  Both are great.  It's typically those hardcore fanboys.  Why is that guys drill not yellow...HEY  HEY!!!!! WE don't like yer kind 'rond HAR!

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2014, 12:37:21 PM »
my Craftsman tools only break when I abuse them. although I'm not sure Iv had any of the Chinese stuff

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2014, 12:46:40 PM »
A guy I used to work with went to exchange a Craftsman 3/8" - 7/16" box wrench after it broke.  The salesman asked him how it happened, and he said "it just broke." Salesman gave him a new wrench, but I guess the guy felt guilty and said, "Look, I have to tell you, I did put a 2' cheater pipe on it."  The salesman smiled and said, "Good. That's what we like to hear."

This exchange did happen a number of years ago, though.  Like 30.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2014, 12:51:06 PM »
I know, I would use either but when I started buying tools I went with Milwaukee.

Milwaukee has been the contractor's standard weapon for years, and they abuse them.  Ever hear of a Milwaukee drill being burned out after drilling steel all day long?  Probably not.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2014, 01:02:26 PM »
A guy I used to work with went to exchange a Craftsman 3/8" - 7/16" box wrench after it broke.  The salesman asked him how it happened, and he said "it just broke." Salesman gave him a new wrench, but I guess the guy felt guilty and said, "Look, I have to tell you, I did put a 2' cheater pipe on it."  The salesman smiled and said, "Good. That's what we like to hear."

This exchange did happen a number of years ago, though.  Like 30.

A qyear or two ago I bought a craftsman punch, the guy told me that it if I was ever unhappy with it to put it in the vice and snap it off with a hammer and then come get a new one

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2014, 01:08:13 PM »
drill has to be dewalt. by far best drill on market. my sawsall and other power tools are milwuakee.

i have had my craftsman hand tools for about 6 years now. never had to replace any except for one ratchet. went to kmart (yes they sell craftsman now) and they replaced no problems

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2014, 03:26:33 PM »
K-mart is in the process of an extensive downsizing effort. I suspect that they may not be around for the long haul much longer.

This means that your Craftsman Lifetime Warranty is about to expire.
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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2014, 04:54:54 PM »
drill has to be dewalt. by far best drill on market.

My Milwaukee drill will eat your Dewalt drill and still have enough juice left over to build a deck.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2014, 05:14:57 PM »
My Milwaukee drill will eat your Dewalt drill and still have enough juice left over to build a deck.
^This.  The new (last couple of years) Milwaukee drills with the brushless motors and lithium batteries are the best cordless tools you can buy right now.  That's all we have on our vans now, and we have yet to kill one of them - not for lack of trying.  I don't even bother getting  my Hole-Hawg out of the van anymore.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2014, 05:28:08 PM »
I like my Rigid drill kit, but it gets light duty use.

Walk into Kmart and/or Sears and look around at the empty store.  Real question, will JCP or Kmart go out first?

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2014, 05:28:58 PM »
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-250-pc-mechanics-tools-set-with-3/p-00938250000P

That is what i ended up with. I didnt want to support craftsman. but the service of menards is horrible. they don't really honor the warranty. so if it breaks. tough luck. I looked at a set of kobalt. but for the same price as the kobalt (well, 5 bucks more) you get so incredibly much more in the craftsman set.

8 pieces to take back. some just weren't sized right. others not labeled right, and one duplicate / missing socket.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2014, 05:30:22 PM »
I like my Rigid drill kit, but it gets light duty use.

Walk into Kmart and/or Sears and look around at the empty store.  Real question, will JCP or Kmart go out first?

my sears is packed. kmart failed a long time ago

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2014, 05:43:52 PM »
Seems like a good set, I would add in another ratchet with a rotating head though for those areas that a straight ratchet cant get into.  Id also add a long breaker bar.

And don't forget some break away oil spray to help getting off those annoying rusty bolts.  It helps a lot.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2014, 05:52:09 PM »
spliting topics.

never seen that feature in another forum, neat. it should auto notify you to replies in the new thread tho.

i do plan on getting another ratchet. i like the swivel head with big plastic grip. made in tiwan. i think the one stolen from me was a usa one. so ill probably be suisidially depressed over that ratchet for the rest of my life.

i'm not sure my breaker bar will fit in this box.

then again. i have much stuff that won't fit in this box. this is nice as it organizes your sockets, and thats a problem i always have. but i don't want two boxes.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2014, 08:05:39 PM »
I have trouble with my breaker bar fitting in boxes sometimes.....


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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2014, 08:07:33 PM »
ill probably get a bigger box at some point, but will need carriers for the sockets.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2014, 11:45:23 AM »
Here in the UK Snap-On is hard to get. Mac tools you can get and Wera as well. Most my tools I get piecemeal from a couple of engineering tool shops here in town. Power tools are Sheppach, Milwaukee as they last. Also Rigid for any pipe-fitting tools. Looking forward to getting back to the states as good tools are much more expensive over here. Still thinking of whether I will be selling my CNC router or shipping it (not a big one, cutting area of 350mm x 850mm x 165mm [x,y,z]). It just the headache of making it safe to ship with the electronics (has a transformer with it).

No good tools are always worth their money and you get the better quality craftsmen tools and they can take serious punishment. If you have to move your tools a lot I can see not wanting a lot of boxes to move. Myself, I prefer to have a spot for every tool so that when done with a project everything can go in it's place. -Michael
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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2014, 11:49:15 AM »
craftsman quality seems to have gone done. even the ratchet seems "loose", oil leaking out. looks like debris can get in.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2014, 11:54:25 AM »
who you calling a ratchet hahahaha. i swear the lingo now a days of kids is absurd

overall my dewalt has done everything ive needed it to do. my buddy in the security field installing security cameras swears by his dewalt. i guess its personal preferance

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2014, 11:59:13 AM »
who you calling a ratchet hahahaha. i swear the lingo now a days of kids is absurd


huh?

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2014, 12:59:59 PM »
huh?
according to urban dictionary this is the definition of a ratchet:

Ratchet
A diva, mostly from urban cities and ghettos, that has reason to believe she is every mans eye candy. Unfortunately, she's wrong.

Typical signs to beware of include, but are not limited to:
-owning a Blackberry
-BLARES anything by Drake, 2Chainz, Nicki Minaj, Gucci Mane, Waka Flocka, Lil Wayne, T-Pain, Cali Swag District, or any other garbage entertainment rapper
-rowdily quotes "lyrics" from aforementioned artists
-has a weave reminiscent of a bird's nest after a tempest hit the tree it was in, and is dyed at least thrice
-wears torn leggings/stalkings (mostly of the fishnet variety), unpolished 8" heels (or higher, depending on how God-awful they look), fitted jean jackets (to accent the blubber 'round their arms and stomach), and 4 layers of caked on make-up to go clubbing
-repeatedly use ludicrous terms such as "YOLO", "swag", "boost", "beaking", "doe", "really", "naw", "actually", "twerk", "coaster", "dagga", etc., to make a valid statement when they speak
-have side bangs, despite having incredibly small-ass foreheads to support them
-are commonly overweight
and are mind-numbingly stupid; a safe assumption to make would be saying they're uneducated (as if they could pass the 4th grade)

If spotted, please report to the authorities, notifying them that they are possible smack addicts, or potential, degenerate Chaka Khan look-alikes.
Imagine a woman that wears skinny clothes, bad looking heels & fishnet stalkings, blasts Drake or Waka off her phone, would go out of her way as to cop CD's from these artists, has a bad hairdo, looks immensely disgusting as a human being, and would rather spend her time maintaining her looks, communicating among her folk, and being a jobless, gold-digging bum for the rest of her days, not even bothering to get herself a good shower, a paying career, and a damned effort to earn a diploma.

That, my comrades, is a prime notoriety of a ratchet.

God help us all.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ratchet

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2014, 01:07:52 PM »
thats an odd word to use to describe that kinda person.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2014, 01:33:43 PM »
Urbandictionary. MEH.

That place is just troll to try to spread new lingo that makes no sense at all.

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Re: Tool time discussion
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2014, 01:42:04 PM »
Urbandictionary. MEH.

That place is just troll to try to spread new lingo that makes no sense at all.

Cool, man- that's far out
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