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Re: Why not to depend on Wiki-anything for answers
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2014, 09:10:47 AM »
pretty sure my 180 GR will get it done. i have bonded win ranger and normal win ranger. both good rounds in the top 3 with HST and gold dot

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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2014, 09:12:32 AM »
I used to have a ford ranger, it was gold.

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Re: Why not to depend on Wiki-anything for answers
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2014, 09:14:48 AM »
I used to have a ford ranger, it was gold.

lmao...must be one of those fun mornings!!! everyone took some smartass pills today

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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2014, 09:16:30 AM »
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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2014, 10:16:55 AM »

An if you want a little extra punch with the .40S&W you can go to a +P load. Or a  +P+ .40S&W load.

Oh wait, my mistake. There is no such thing as a +P or a +P+ .40S&W.

Nevermind.


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Re: Why not to depend on Wiki-anything for answers
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2014, 10:43:32 AM »
An if you want a little extra punch with the .40S&W you can go to a +P load. Or a  +P+ .40S&W load.

Oh wait, my mistake. There is no such thing as a +P or a +P+ .40S&W.

Nevermind.

im sure the standard 180 gr does well for penetration, wont need a extra punch like the 147gr +p 9mm.

when you have the perfect round, you dont need more than 2 grain options or +p or +P+ options.

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« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2014, 11:33:31 AM »
If it's extra punch you want, why be such a middle of the road wimp with .40? Why not just step up and go with 10mm?

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Re: Why not to depend on Wiki-anything for answers
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2014, 11:47:44 AM »
I still would like to s/w, sheild. Carry On.
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Re: Why not to depend on Wiki-anything for answers
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2014, 11:51:23 AM »
bigT How much is 10mm vs 40cal ammo?
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Re: Why not to depend on Wiki-anything for answers
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2014, 12:12:26 PM »
im actually looking at a 10mm from EAA.

.40 ammo is easy to find. 10mm not so easy

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Re: Why not to depend on Wiki-anything for answers
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2014, 01:14:37 PM »
bigT How much is 10mm vs 40cal ammo?
you're going to let cost dictate personal safety?

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« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2014, 01:36:14 PM »
you're going to let cost dictate personal safety?

cost isnt why i chose 40 over 10mm. availability is.

also 10mm options are slim
i do like the glock 20 though :)

.40 is a more than capable round

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Re: Why not to depend on Wiki-anything for answers
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2014, 02:35:52 PM »
pretty sure my 180 GR will get it done. i have bonded win ranger and normal win ranger. both good rounds in the top 3 with HST and gold dot
Not as well as a .45ACP 230gr +P or a 9mm 124gr +P+.
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Re: Why not to depend on Wiki-anything for answers
« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2014, 02:38:37 PM »
Not as well as a .45ACP 230gr +P or a 9mm 124gr +P+.

and what does you new glock use?  :-X


a quick google search got me this:
.38 Spl.: This cartridge is considered by many experts to be the minimum necessary for adequate personal protection, along with the .380 ACP listed below. For decades, this was the standard round for law enforcement and it served well, even using the plain round-nose lead ammunition. Anyone who chooses this soft-kicking cartridge today will be even better served thanks to the availability of specialized self-defense ammunition.

.357 Mag.: As the name implies, this is a powerful cartridge with a reputation for producing one shot stops against two-legged predators. That power runs both ways and it can be tough to handle for some. One notable benefit here is that, since this is just a .38 Spl. with a slightly longer case and a lot more power, revolvers cambered for .357 Mag. can be loaded with .38 Spl. for recoil-sensitive family members. The reverse, however, does not apply.

.380 ACP: Long popular for small semi-auto pistols in Europe and countries where possession of military calibers is restricted, the .380 ACP (or 9 mm Short) cartridge has taken America by storm in the last few years. This is thanks to the increased popularity of concealed carry and the ability of this cartridge to fit very small guns. Much like the .38 Spl. above, it is considered a minimum self-defense cartridge, but was used for decades by European police officers and, most famously, by James Bond.

9 mm: Consider the perennial European cartridge, the 9 mm is fast, straight shooting, light kicking, easy to find and cheap to shoot. It is equally at home in full-size guns as in small concealed-carry ones. It is for these reasons that it is in such widespread use among modern law enforcement agencies and militaries (including ours) worldwide. It is more than sufficiently powerful enough for self-defense with proper ammunition and easy for beginners to master.

.40 S&W: Is it better to have big, powerful rounds or more of them? This is America, so why not both? The .40 S&W cartridge is a less-powerful version of the 10 mm, and it offers heavy bullets with a lot of velocity, while remaining comfortable for most to fire with magazine capacity that is close to that of a similar-sized 9 mm pistol. The .40 S&W is a favorite among many law enforcement agencies and individuals focused on self-defense, and for good reason.

.45 ACP: This is the American cartridge: big, loud and powerful. Nearly half an inch in diameter, hollow-point ammunition resembles a flying ashtray as much as a bullet can. This heavy, slow-moving cartridge was the standard for the U.S. military for over 70 years and served on every battlefield (and still does) where Americans have fought. While it has stout recoil, it feels more like a push that a jab, and with practice, it is manageable by most and preferred by many.

In the end, the key is to get out to the range and try out a variety of guns and calibers to find the one you like best. Just like buying a car, if you are only getting one to share, it is always best to test drive it and make it a family decision.
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Re: Why not to depend on Wiki-anything for answers
« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2014, 02:46:29 PM »
and what does you new glock use?  :-X


Hey, that's a low blow.

I had to buy that Glock. If it were up to me, I'd carry my HK USP45.
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Re: Why not to depend on Wiki-anything for answers
« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2014, 02:51:29 PM »
Hey, that's a low blow.

I had to buy that Glock. If it were up to me, I'd carry my HK USP45.

just curious as to what kind of ammo is in the glock. easy question sir :)

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Re: Why not to depend on Wiki-anything for answers
« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2014, 04:01:56 PM »
I could find many articles that say 9mm is the best and the other calibers are stupid.

You are very defensive on that .40 lol.  Do you have royalties in the design or something?

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Re: Why not to depend on Wiki-anything for answers
« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2014, 04:13:16 PM »
I could find many articles that say 9mm is the best and the other calibers are stupid.

You are very defensive on that .40 lol.  Do you have royalties in the design or something?

nope but i love that round and everyone is entitled to their opinion. mine is the .40 is the best defensive round. as the article i read states, best of both world. extra punch vs the 9mm with better mag capacity vs 45acp

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Re: Why not to depend on Wiki-anything for answers
« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2014, 04:53:36 PM »
How often do you go shooting at CQT?  I want to feel the might of the .40 one of these days.

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Re: Why not to depend on Wiki-anything for answers
« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2014, 04:58:17 PM »
How often do you go shooting at CQT?  I want to feel the might of the .40 one of these days.

depends on my funds. i am also waiting on a part from smith and wesson for it. a new takedown as mine comes loose at times. it still fires but is very scary when the slide moves as much as it does. its been benched for now and i carry my BUG as my main at this time :(