pretty sure my 180 GR will get it done. i have bonded win ranger and normal win ranger. both good rounds in the top 3 with HST and gold dot
Not as well as a .45ACP 230gr +P or a 9mm 124gr +P+.
That's a NATO load.
I don't know where you're getting that the 9mm NATO is a +P+ loading or better than a .40 Gold Dot or HST. It isn't even better than a 9mm Gold Dot or HST!
Contrary to the misinformation posted most places, there is nothing at all hot or special about the 9mm 124 grain NATO load. The velocity figures that people like to throw around for the 9mm 124 grain NATO round are from test barrels, (7.85” EPVAT barrels to be specific) not actual pistol barrels. Even when fired from a Beretta 92, with its 5 inch barrel, the 124 grain NATO round doesn’t even come close to the velocities people claim. In fact, there is little difference in velocity between the 9mm 124 grain NATO round and a modern standard pressure 9mm 124 grain hollow point round.
As an example, the chronograph printout shown below is from the Speer 124 grain Gold Dot (standard pressure load) fired from a Beretta 92. The instrumental velocity at 21 feet is 1114 fps.
Now take a look at the next chronograph printout. This printout is from the Winchester 9mm 124 grain NATO load fired from the same Beretta 92, fired immediately after the Gold Dot load was fired. The instrumental velocity at 21 feet is 1108 fps; 6 fps less than the Gold Dot load.
Here is some additional chronograph data, this time comparing Federal's 9mm 124 grain NATO load to several other 124 grain duty loads. All loads were fired from a SIG Sauer P229 with a 3.8" barrel. Note that the 9mm NATO load is the slowest load in the table.
9mm NATO is a standard pressure load, not some super hot load (although some designations for sub-guns are supposed to be hotter, I have yet to see C.I.P. pressures for 9mm NATO), but you're shooting round nose, not hollow point, and you're not getting any better velocity than standard self-defense ammo. What you are getting with 9mm NATO is a round with less stopping power.