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Offline SD40VE

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what did he do wrong?
« on: July 22, 2014, 08:47:15 AM »


this video was from a cpl class taken over the weekend with my girlfriend. paul sent me a video and i noticed something very wrong, can you see it? besides him letting the "bad guy" get that close with a knife.
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Offline SD40VE

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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2014, 09:01:28 AM »
and him using a hi-point lol. my GF has a C9 hipoint she used for the class. i used my SD40VE and did well on the shooting parts.
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2014, 09:01:36 AM »
I didn't see anything wrong, other than the guy waving a gun towards all of the audience.

Well maybe not actually waving. But it definitely wasn't being directed down range.
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2014, 09:08:10 AM »
Quote from: CV67PAT on July 22, 2014, 09:01:36 AM
I didn't see anything wrong, other than the guy waving a gun towards all of the audience.

Well maybe not actually waving. But it definitely wasn't being directed down range.

look at his thumbs....
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2014, 09:08:42 AM »
Hey Brad, did you put information in the "bad CPL class" post I referenced you to yesterday? Even though you say the instructor has learned and will change, does not mean he will. If you put the info at least someone who uses him next will have an idea of what they may expect.

Just a suggestion by a MOC member.

Tom
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2014, 09:09:54 AM »
ill fill out what i can i dont have his full name. pm me a link to the thread
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2014, 09:11:30 AM »
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2014, 09:12:04 AM »
Quote from: SD40VE on July 22, 2014, 09:09:54 AM
ill fill out what i can i dont have his full name. pm me a link to the thread
His full name will be on the certificate your wife got.
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2014, 09:14:08 AM »


his thumb is resting on a moving part of the slide. moving parts and fingers dont get along well. with the hipoint the slide is massive, wraps around the frame, and the whole thing moves back. hes going to work on his gripping of his firearm

i told him work on thumbs forward grip
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Offline CV67PAT

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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2014, 09:22:25 AM »
Quote from: SD40VE on July 22, 2014, 09:14:08 AM


his thumb is resting on a moving part of the slide. moving parts and fingers dont get along well. with the hipoint the slide is massive, wraps around the frame, and the whole thing moves back. hes going to work on his gripping of his firearm

i told him work on thumbs forward grip
His instructor should have taught him proper grip as part of the course.
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2014, 09:23:48 AM »
he did go over proper grip. he showed us thumbs forward with shoulder width apart feet, i prefer the "weaver stance" with one foot slightly more forward leaned in

also his grip has space on it. like hes not holding the gun tight in the web of his hand between thumb and index finger.
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2014, 01:49:09 PM »
I don't know, was someone carrying a .40 or something?
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2014, 01:51:57 PM »
Quote from: Jeff on July 22, 2014, 01:49:09 PM
I don't know, was someone carrying a .40 or something?

haha i was, you can see it on the table at the end of the video. i have green mag plates and a 2 tone firearm sitting in a camo case lol
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2014, 02:17:56 PM »
That's why you carry a .40  Why limit yourself.   You get a car AND a truck, you get a house AND an apartment, have a cat AND a dog, sleep with women AND M..... eeeeuuuuuuuuu
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2014, 02:21:36 PM »
Quote from: Jeff on July 22, 2014, 02:17:56 PM
That's why you carry a .40  Why limit yourself.   You get a car AND a truck, you get a house AND an apartment, have a cat AND a dog, sleep with women AND M..... eeeeuuuuuuuuu

why have 120 different kinds of bullet weight and load packing?

what i ahve works, and i can shoot well and accurate with it while still having that extra 1 mm over the 9mm :) that may be the difference between missing a vital organ and hitting it
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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2014, 02:24:50 PM »
Quote from: SD40VE on July 22, 2014, 01:51:57 PM
haha i was, you can see it on the table at the end of the video. i have green mag plates and a 2 tone firearm sitting in a camo case lol
That's why we couldn't see it. The camo was working.
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2014, 02:26:00 PM »
Quote from: CV67PAT on July 22, 2014, 02:24:50 PM
That's why we couldn't see it. The camo was working.

its open and in plain view :P
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2014, 04:05:04 PM »
Quote from: SD40VE on July 22, 2014, 02:21:36 PM
why have 120 different kinds of bullet weight and load packing?

what i ahve works, and i can shoot well and accurate with it while still having that extra 1 mm over the 9mm :) that may be the difference between missing a vital organ and hitting it

that 1mm COULD give the extra artery nick that's for sure.  Maybe the bastard will bleed out as he runs away with your wallet because of that extra 1mm. And if you shoot him 10 times, that's like.....a whole extra free bullet over the 9mm lol.
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Offline SD40VE

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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2014, 04:11:57 PM »
thats right!
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Offline welshj

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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2014, 03:40:29 AM »
What finger was he pulling the trigger with?
Had a hard time seeing it- but it looked like the trigger finger was awful high on the slide as well.
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2014, 08:12:19 AM »
being a hi point and its design you have to really keep your hands free of the moving slide. its awkward. i dont like them much. my woman loves hers though...ill stick to my SD and M&P's
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Re: what did he do wrong?
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2014, 05:21:00 PM »
Quote from: Jeff on July 22, 2014, 04:05:04 PM
that 1mm COULD give the extra artery nick that's for sure.

That only applies for round nose ammo.  For hollow points with sharp petals that spread out, it's a lot larger.
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