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Offline wardog6t

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Art Beat n Eats
« on: August 08, 2010, 10:02:50 AM »
http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/oakland_county/gun-advocates-plan-protest-over-right-to-carry-firearms-at-arts,-beats-&-eats-festival


Protestors argue that they should be allowed to carry guns on public streets. The group has already attended previous meetings at City Hall where some of the advocates wore military fatigues and  carried their weapons.
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2010, 12:03:43 PM »
"Advocates say they won't go to court over the issue."

Is there a reason why not? Financing?
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2010, 12:48:06 PM »
Quote from: TheQ on August 08, 2010, 12:03:43 PM
"Advocates say they won't go to court over the issue."

Is there a reason why not? Financing?
What Advocates ? MICOLES ,AG Mi ,City above the Law ?
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2010, 01:54:08 PM »
Quote from: wardog6t on August 08, 2010, 10:02:50 AM
http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/oakland_county/gun-advocates-plan-protest-over-right-to-carry-firearms-at-arts,-beats-&-eats-festival


Protestors argue that they should be allowed to carry guns on public streets. The group has already attended previous meetings at City Hall where some of the advocates wore military fatigues and  carried their weapons.

The gentleman in question was wearing his official Battle Dress Uniform complete with all rank and insignia.
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2010, 09:50:11 PM »
I like how they emphasize military fatigue's and that it was some members.... I wonder how they would have stated it, if he were in dress blues or greens?
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2010, 09:51:57 PM »
Hard to say... the media is always looking to stir the pot... for gain!
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2010, 10:32:09 PM »
They can't do that being it is public streets right? The same with fairgrounds no?
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2010, 07:41:24 AM »
Quote from: emt805 on August 08, 2010, 10:32:09 PM
They can't do that being it is public streets right? The same with fairgrounds no?
       Point ! Public Sidewalk        NOW with Toll ?        Not a firearms related, free speech and free movement or right to assemble ?
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2010, 07:44:48 AM »
Quote from: emt805 on August 08, 2010, 10:32:09 PM
They can't do that being it is public streets right? The same with fairgrounds no?

It doesn't seem as if they should be able to lease away a property right they don't possess.  Ultimately, as with everything, that is a topic that would need to be decided in court.  Someone "injured" (read: anyone with a gun who would reasonably plan to attend) would need to file suite to in a court of equity (Circuit Court) to get an injunction.
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2010, 07:59:04 AM »
Quote from: TheQ on August 09, 2010, 07:44:48 AM
Someone "injured" (read: anyone with a gun who would reasonably plan to attend) would need to file suite to in a court of equity (Circuit Court) to get an injunction.

They'd need to file suit, even ;)
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2010, 12:01:31 AM »
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2010, 12:42:51 AM »
eVo: thanks for the links.
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2010, 05:21:16 AM »
Thank you to everyone who came out to support us. I was very proud to stand along side so many who stood up for everyone's right to carry.
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2010, 09:54:43 AM »
The finish line is in sight! Let's finish strong.
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2010, 03:30:44 PM »
Word is getting out, I was at work today (second day at a new job) and one of the guys starts telling another go-worker about it being legal to open carry in MI and he did not know it was legal, he then goes on to tell about there being debate if it should be legal at this event and he saw your interview with the news. Overall positive experience, I gave him the web address and told him he would find alot more info on the site.
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2010, 09:11:49 PM »
http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/2010/08/14/news/local_news/doc4c672b1d8a731577033120.txt

Someone read the law a few more times!

Victory is here! I heard its on the agenda to change the contract tomorrow!

I will be there with getting my Glock on!
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2010, 11:30:24 PM »
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Gun advocates, many of them from a group called Michigan Open Carry, have trumpeted their right to openly carry firearms at the four-day festival over Labor Day weekend.

It's unfortunate they worded it that way.  It would be better worded "the rights of Michigan residents".
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Offline polishnightmare

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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2010, 09:15:04 AM »
I heard on the news this morning that the RO city counsel was going to vote today concerning if they were going to change the ordinace making carrying of a gun during the festival OK or not.
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2010, 10:59:07 AM »
The meeting starts at 19:30 so, who is all going? I know I will be.This is where it's being held... Commission Room: 211 S Williams St, on the 3rd floor, room 315. As said, they do have the AB&E 2nd amendment issue on the official agenda.
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Re: Art Beat n Eats
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2010, 01:30:34 PM »
Talking with TheQ about showing up together,we are a possible as of right now,will edit if this changes.
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