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FOIA for 2013-2014 CCW Annual Report
« on: April 04, 2015, 01:37:25 PM »
So I submitted a FOIA request for the 2013-2014 CCW Annual Report to the MSP.

https://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,4643,7-123-1591_3503_4654-77621--,00.html

Quote from: MCL 28.425e(5)
The department of state police shall file with the secretary of the senate and the clerk of the house of representatives, and post on the department of state police's internet website, an annual report setting forth all of the following information for each county concealed weapon licensing board:
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I received a notice of extension in the mail today. http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-15-235 Section 5 (2)(d) is relevant.  Interesting to need an extension for a report they are required to provide by statute.
When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace. Luke 11:21

Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."  Luke 22:36

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Re: FOIA for 2013-2014 CCW Annual Report
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2015, 03:54:45 PM »
So if MSP were law abiding, all they would have had to do in response to your FOID was give you a link to where it's already posted on their website?
"A well balanced breakfast being necessary to the start of a healthy day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed "  - Who has a right to keep and eat food, The People or A Well Balanced Breakfast?

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Re: FOIA for 2013-2014 CCW Annual Report
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2015, 04:05:00 PM »
No they haven't posted the 2013-2014 report, covering July 1, 2013 to June 31, 2014.
When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace. Luke 11:21

Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."  Luke 22:36

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Re: FOIA for 2013-2014 CCW Annual Report
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2015, 08:12:11 PM »
No they haven't posted the 2013-2014 report, covering July 1, 2013 to June 31, 2014.

But that makes them law violators.
If they were law abiding, it WOULD be on their web site, right?
"A well balanced breakfast being necessary to the start of a healthy day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed "  - Who has a right to keep and eat food, The People or A Well Balanced Breakfast?

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Re: FOIA for 2013-2014 CCW Annual Report
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2015, 08:48:42 PM »
Sorry, didn't pick up on the sarcasm.
When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace. Luke 11:21

Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."  Luke 22:36

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Re: FOIA for 2013-2014 CCW Annual Report
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2015, 07:42:59 PM »
Just a follow-up.  The MSP denied my FOIA request because I was asking for compiled data, not a document.  WTF?!?  I requested a document containing compiled data that they are required to produce by statute.

New report is now available...

http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654-77621--,00.html

direct link: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/2013-2014_Annual_Report_503061_7.pdf
When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace. Luke 11:21

Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."  Luke 22:36

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Re: FOIA for 2013-2014 CCW Annual Report
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2015, 07:47:54 PM »
So they totally refused your FOID request but eventually made it available to all?
Was there a deadline for publication in the statute?
"A well balanced breakfast being necessary to the start of a healthy day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed "  - Who has a right to keep and eat food, The People or A Well Balanced Breakfast?

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Re: FOIA for 2013-2014 CCW Annual Report
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2015, 08:14:37 PM »
So they totally refused your FOID request but eventually made it available to all?
Was there a deadline for publication in the statute?

Yes, they denied my FOIA request and made it available to all.

There is no deadline in the current statute.
http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-28-425e
Quote from: mcl 28.425e
(5) The department of state police shall file with the secretary of the senate and the clerk of the house of representatives, and post on the department of state police's internet website, an annual report setting forth all of the following information for each county concealed weapon licensing board:

There is a deadline coming into effect on December 1, 2015
http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-28-425e-amended
Quote from: mcl 28.425e.amended
(5) The department of state police shall by January 1 of each year file with the secretary of the senate and the clerk of the house of representatives, and post on the department of state police's internet website, an annual report setting forth all of the following information for the state for the previous fiscal year:
When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace. Luke 11:21

Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."  Luke 22:36