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Offline Theraven536

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Hell's Saints?
« on: October 12, 2015, 11:23:09 AM »
Has anyone done any OC walks with Hell's Saints? I was thinking of doing one (or more). Thoughts?

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Re: Hell's Saints?
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2015, 12:29:53 PM »
I don't believe anyone here has done one, maybe Michigander.  Some people here have issues with some of the members, but I can't speak to that.

I have thought about doing one, not because I am a proponent of LGOC, but I've watched a number of their Detroit walks videos and have been fascinated by their interactions with the public. I have emailed back and forth with James (Baker) a few times.  If I did I wouldn't carry a long gun, though.

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Re: Hell's Saints?
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2015, 01:48:42 PM »
I don't believe anyone here has done one, maybe Michigander.  Some people here have issues with some of the members, but I can't speak to that.

I have thought about doing one, not because I am a proponent of LGOC, but I've watched a number of their Detroit walks videos and have been fascinated by their interactions with the public. I have emailed back and forth with James (Baker) a few times.  If I did I wouldn't carry a long gun, though.
If I decide to, I will not carry my long gun. I don't see the value in doing that, other then shock value.

Anyone else?

If I do decide to, I will be sure to post about it.

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Re: Hell's Saints?
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2015, 02:29:06 PM »
Have you seen this thread from earlier this year?

https://forums.miopencarry.org/index.php/topic,4821.0.html

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Re: Hell's Saints?
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2015, 03:22:22 PM »
My personal Opinion....

I find there walks to border on trying to instigate conflict, same with when they show up at events.

Mr Baker was at a dinner I attended, and was said to have made comments (some say racist) about the current MOC VP's wife.  I didn't hear the comments directly, but I believe the VP

Ill pass on any Hell's Saints events.
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Re: Hell's Saints?
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2015, 06:14:23 PM »
I find there walks to border on trying to instigate conflict

Conflict with whom? The police or citizens they encounter?  The citizen encounters I've seen in their videos, mostly with African Americans, seem positive and interesting.

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Mr Baker was at a dinner I attended, and was said to have made comments (some say racist) about the current MOC VP's wife.

I would like to know what was said.  Racist comments and racism is to be abhorred.

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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2015, 06:28:50 PM »
Conflict with whom? The police or citizens they encounter?  The citizen encounters I've seen in their videos, mostly with African Americans, seem positive and interesting.

I would like to know what was said.  Racist comments and racism is to be abhorred.
Ask Johnny, I would rather you hear it directly from him
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Re: Hell's Saints?
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2015, 07:39:20 PM »



Ill pass on any Hell's Saints events.

Would you pass just because of the comments, or other reasons? Watching the videos that have posted, I don't see anything that could be considered racist.
If there is something else, please let me know.

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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2015, 09:17:10 PM »

Would you pass just because of the comments, or other reasons? Watching the videos that have posted, I don't see anything that could be considered racist.
If there is something else, please let me know.

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Re: Hell's Saints?
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2015, 09:32:58 PM »
If you want a group that's into attention whoring, look no further.
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