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Offline TheQ

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CPL Application Form/Guide Error?
« on: August 23, 2010, 04:40:36 PM »
The CPL Application Guide has the following:

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All Concealed Pistol Licenses issued after July 1, 2001, are unrestricted. However, licensees are prohibited from carrying a pistol in the following places:
  • A school or school property. However, a parent or legal guardian of a student of the school is not precluded from carrying a concealed pistol while in a vehicle on school property while dropping off or picking up a student.
  • A private or public child care center or day care center, child caring institution, or child placing agency.
  • A sports arena or stadium.
  • A tavern or bar where the primary source of income is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass consumed on the premises.
  • Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple or other place of worship, unless the presiding officials permit the carrying on the property.
  • An entertainment facility, with a seating capacity of 2,500 or more individuals, that the individual knows or should know has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more or that has a sign above each public entrance stating that the seating is 2,500 or more.
  • A hospital.
  • A dorm or classroom of a college or university.


Notice, this does not mention a concealed pistol, it merely says: However, licensees are prohibited from carrying a pistol in the following places

This can be a bit misleading if the law is that you can carry openly in said places.  Should we work with the MSP to get this application kit updated/changed to read: However, licensees are prohibited from carrying a concealed pistol in the following places ???
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Re: CPL Application Form/Guide Error?
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2010, 04:51:07 PM »
I see no need for "we" :)  Hit them up and let them know, great find sir!

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Re: CPL Application Form/Guide Error?
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2010, 05:13:33 PM »
I see no need for "we" :)  Hit them up and let them know, great find sir!

Any ideas what division to contact?  Statistical Records Division ???
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Re: CPL Application Form/Guide Error?
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2010, 10:17:12 PM »
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/guidetoservices_97058_7.pdf

Try this .. and I would start with the firearms records division.
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Re: CPL Application Form/Guide Error?
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2010, 10:06:23 PM »
I personally contacted the MSP about this about 2 years ago... I also mentioned that the website information at the time also did not have "concealed" as the operative word in the information .  They did change the website and told me that the form would be changed when they went through the forms that were already printed
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