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Offline gryphon

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Spam posts
« on: August 10, 2018, 07:41:36 PM »
We get a fair amount of spam posts and it seems they've been increasing lately.  The MOC forum has been getting several (or more than several) new accounts every day.  A few days later they come back and post ads for sex toys, DVDs, Adidas, stereo equipment, personal slaves (not sure how that works, might need to check that out myself), and so on.  I delete them and the new account as soon as I see them, but even though I check several times a day, sometimes you see them first.

Feel free to still report them if you want.  I just wanted to let you know that we are not ignoring them.  Sometimes you just see them first.  Thanks.

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Re: Spam posts
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2018, 08:06:52 AM »
My bookmark for this forum is Show unread posts since last visit.

If you start there, you'll probably find the ads for Butt Plugs faster than you could by checking for reported posts.

Seems like the garbage is all this forum gets these days.

Did everybody move over to ZuckerBook?
"A well balanced breakfast being necessary to the start of a healthy day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed "  - Who has a right to keep and eat food, The People or A Well Balanced Breakfast?

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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2018, 10:57:00 AM »
Yes, 99.9% of the MOC traffic is on MOC's facebook group.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/MichiganOpenCarry/

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Re: Spam posts
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2018, 09:54:30 PM »
My bookmark for this forum is Show unread posts since last visit.

If you start there, you'll probably find the ads for Butt Plugs faster than you could by checking for reported posts.

Seems like the garbage is all this forum gets these days.

Did everybody move over to ZuckerBook?
Yes unfortunately most did.
They seem to forget some of us have been members for a very long time and since this is where communication started, it is just rude to demand everybody use bookface.

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Re: Spam posts
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2018, 10:04:08 AM »
I don't know that anybody's demanding you use a web site established by one of our self-declared enemies, they just went there, because, well, that's what everybody does these days, for reasons far beyond my comprehension.
I don't know how it overtook and replaced Instagram and Myspace, but it's now how people communicate.
If you want to talk to them, you go where they are, because expecting them to come back to the forum apparently isn't working.
This is a problem for me, because I want nothing to do with the House of Zuck.

Sometimes I'll drop my filters and visit this facebook page to view the latest sale flyer, but that's the only thing I ever do there:
https://www.facebook.com/rivesqualitymeats/
(store made sausage for $1.49, NY Strip for $2.49-4.29, I buy 30lb when it's under $3)

Couple weeks ago I was accosted by the world's friendliest beagle in the road out in front of my house.
Put found ads on Lansing and BC Craigslist, and called animal control to give them my phone number. 
Got a CL response from the moderator of a facebook lost pets group.
I emailed her back, told her to let me know if she heard of anybody missing a beagle.

A week later, that moderator forwarded a facebook post to me. She was kind enough to send a screencap instead of just a link.
My neighbor's son's girlfriend had lost a beagle and was feeling sad a week after it was missing for a week, so she put a pic of it on her facebook page. It was the dog I'd found.

I called her, she said it had slipped its collar three houses away from me while she was caring for her sick boyfriend.
She showed up with a collar in one hand and a bag of treats in the other. Her first act was to put the collar on the dog and adjust it tighter. I checked her facebook page and a couple of people had quoted my CL ad in response to her post. Several people emailed me through CL on her behalf that morning, after I'd called her to come get her dog.

Don't know why she didn't say anything in public about losing the dog until it was missing for a week. I thought the dog was excited to see me when we first met, but that was nothing compared to when it saw its owner a week later.
"A well balanced breakfast being necessary to the start of a healthy day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed "  - Who has a right to keep and eat food, The People or A Well Balanced Breakfast?

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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2018, 03:25:29 PM »
I guess seeing most of the communication for members stop "unless you go to bookface", I feel that is a demand.
Either follow us or leave.






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Re: Spam posts
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2018, 12:28:11 AM »
We get dozens, sometimes hundreds, of posts per day on our facebook group page (which you have to join and be approved).  Facebook is orders of magnitude more active than this forum ever was.  I also lament it.  I think the forum is superior, but these days people use facebook. 

Also, all the new events are posted there.  They used to be posted both places, but not anymore.  We have many events throughout the year, many each month sometimes, and they are no longer posted here.  We have several upcoming picnics in mid-Michigan and one in the UP.  Finally, we're back in the UP again!  Plus we've just scheduled a lunch near Grand Rapids.  If you are a paid member of MOC you get the newsletter so you know about those.  If you are not a paid member and don't read facebook, you probably do not.

You can't stop the signal.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/MichiganOpenCarry/

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Re: Spam posts
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2018, 03:21:44 AM »
Look at the two most active organizations in the US today: Florida Carry and Open Carry Texas.  Both use facebook because most people are on facebook.  Don't be surprised if this forum goes away one day.  I don't know anyone who is advocating to keep it other than me.

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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2018, 11:26:25 PM »
Many of the members that refuse to use bookface, have already left this organization. Why be a member of something you are beg for information?

Like our parents used to say, if everybody jumped off a bridge...………….

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Re: Spam posts
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2018, 10:24:28 AM »
You can't stop the signal.

But Facebook can stop our signal, and probably will, eventually, now that we've become dependent upon them.

Like SuperTrucker might say, @*&% Zuckerberg, and may Facebook go bankrupt and die.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/08/jeremy-s/facebook-denies-blocks-mrgunsngear-for-promoting-the-sale-of-firearms/
"A well balanced breakfast being necessary to the start of a healthy day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed "  - Who has a right to keep and eat food, The People or A Well Balanced Breakfast?

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Re: Spam posts
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2018, 02:03:43 PM »
I absolutely hate facebook.  The only reason I created an account there is because Line 6 chooses that as the avenue to reach their current and potential customers.  Then Michigan Open Carry embraced facebook.  On MOC's worst day, our facebook group gets one hundred times as many post views as does this forum on our best day.

You can't stop  the signal.

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Re: Spam posts
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2018, 02:06:34 PM »
Also see reply #7 above from me.  Take this seriously.

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2018, 06:37:48 PM »
But if the House of Zuc can block MrGunsnGear for posting about a military hero receiving a medal, anybody (or possibly any group) can be blocked for anything.
"A well balanced breakfast being necessary to the start of a healthy day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed "  - Who has a right to keep and eat food, The People or A Well Balanced Breakfast?

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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2018, 11:41:25 PM »
Also see reply #7 above from me.  Take this seriously.

The writing has been on the wall for a long time, but as I said why bother with a organization that you are forced to beg for information?
I've been at the meh point for a while now, if they feel supporting bookface to make sure they can reach billions of people (to bad the membership numbers do not reflect that) then that is their decision.

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Re: Spam posts
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2018, 02:48:15 PM »
Yes, it is too bad, I WILL NOT go to %*$#@)book to talk, learn, share about guns.

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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2018, 02:57:51 PM »
Why be a member of something you are beg for information?

I don't know if you are still a paid member or not, but if you are you get the monthly newsletter that keeps you pretty well informed, and also make sure you have signed up for the MOC email updates.  Late breaking news and important info is also sent out that way too.

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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2018, 08:45:34 AM »
I used to visit this forum just about every day.  Now I stop by twice a month or so.  Thanks to gryphon and Citizens have rights for keeping on posting and keeping it cleaned of spam.  I'm not a fan of Facebook and don't have an account under my name.  I don't want people I didn't talk to in high school looking me up 45 years later wanting to "chat".    With my last name if anyone wants to find me they can ... I just don't need to have them "stumble upon" me or get a "You might know Glenn" link on FB.    I did create a FB account for a wedding joke years ago and that account joined the MOC page but I seldom post or like anything.  FB is a huge time waster and I need to spend my time working. 

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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2018, 12:35:07 PM »
Look at the two most active organizations in the US today: Florida Carry and Open Carry Texas.  Both use facebook because most people are on facebook.  Don't be surprised if this forum goes away one day.  I don't know anyone who is advocating to keep it other than me.

I am saying to keep it also.
As was posted just a couple of posts after this quoted one, Facebook may take away the signal, meaning to me, they may do what they are doing to other conservative groups and block their accounts.

Another reason I despise facebook.
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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2018, 02:27:33 PM »
If facebook blocked the MOC pages I'm sure we'd see a resurgence here.

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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2018, 08:33:27 AM »
If facebook blocked the MOC pages I'm sure we'd see a resurgence here.

Agreed but this forum will ever get the traffic that our Facebook page gets.  And Facebook brings in new people.... it is hard to get people to this forum.