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Open Carry Specific => OC Questions => Topic started by: Denistonzp on May 09, 2012, 03:27:28 PM
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I'm just starting to get into all of this, so bear with me!
I'm looking for a holster to OC my CZ83 in, and I've been looking up holsters at all the big names like Falco Holsters and Crossbreed, those kinds of places. However, I've found out that there are different types of holsters, I.e. "Pancake" Holster, or a belt holster. What are the different kinds of holsters, and which would I want to OC?
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I have the SafariLand ALS. Investigate that line (google it) and see if they make one for your gun.
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Optics planet used to have a pretty good listing for what fit what, but they seemed to have changed it... sorry... you may want to try calling optics planet or better yet safariland customer service to see if they even make holsters for CZs
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The Safariland website has a holster search feature, but I don't see any CZ83. 75, 85, yes, no 83.
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I guess I might have worded that question wrong, although thank you for the suggestion for Safariland, I think I'm going to look into them.
What I meant was, what's the difference between a "Paddle Holster" and a "Belt Holster" or a "Tactical Holster", I'm so confused on the differences, I don't know which one would be good for me.
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A paddle holster can be taken on and off without removing your belt. It is attached to a paddle that goes between your pants and your body. They also have hooks so they grab on your belt, and sometimes on your pants inside as well. They slide on easily but not off easily. They are probably the most comfortable.
In a belt holster, your belt threads through loops, so you have to undo your belt to put the holster on and take it off.
A tactical holster is often something like a drop-leg holster that straps to your thigh. Think SWAT or the military.
For OC I wear paddle holsters (Safariland and Blackhawk). For CC I have a Crossbreed.
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A paddle holster can be taken on and off without removing your belt. It is attached to a paddle that goes between your pants and your body. They also have hooks so they grab on your belt, and sometimes on your pants inside as well. They slide on easily but not off easily. They are probably the most comfortable.
In a belt holster, your belt threads through loops, so you have to undo your belt to put the holster on and take it off.
A tactical holster is often something like a drop-leg holster that straps to your thigh. Think SWAT or the military.
For OC I wear paddle holsters (Safariland and Blackhawk). For CC I have a Crossbreed.
Awesome! Thanks much for the information. I'm thinking a paddle holster, as that sounds the most convenient. Is there any pro to having a Tactical or Belt holster Vs the Paddle?
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You know, I was just wondering recently if a drop-leg holster would be useful for OC during the winter...
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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I use a paddle and it hoooks aroujnd the bottom of my belt. I like it a lot and it is secure.
I wouldn't want to use a dropleg... though anyone can feel free to, especially if they are OCing without CPL in winter... to make extra sure coat doesnt' cover it. A lot of people willl think you are a "tactical tommy" wannabe if you have a drop leg... also the firearm will get noticed a lot more.
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I wouldn't want to use a dropleg... though anyone can feel free to, especially if they are OCing without CPL in winter... to make extra sure coat doesnt' cover it. A lot of people willl think you are a "tactical tommy" wannabe if you have a drop leg... also the firearm will get noticed a lot more.
Yes, I certainly see your point and don't want to use a drop-leg holster for the same reasons. But is there another way you could OC during the winter? Besides constantly checking your coat, I mean. I cannot get a CPL until I'm 21, which will be in a little over two years. And I am certain there are others in the same boat.
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They are probably the most comfortable.
That's an opinion and one I do not share. I find paddle holsters to be unduly uncomfortable. Best for the OP to try out all the different types. If I want a holster that is easily removable I use a leather holster that has straps that wrap around the belt and snap in place with one-way snaps.
http://www.glocktech.com/reviews/review_images/regulator_G27.JPG (http://www.glocktech.com/reviews/review_images/regulator_G27.JPG)
If I'm not concerned with easy removal I normally use a belt slide holster.
http://www.ubgholsters.com/bonneville.jpg (http://www.ubgholsters.com/bonneville.jpg)
Bronson
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http://www.glocktech.com/reviews/review_images/regulator_G27.JPG (http://www.glocktech.com/reviews/review_images/regulator_G27.JPG)
http://www.ubgholsters.com/bonneville.jpg (http://www.ubgholsters.com/bonneville.jpg)
Not very good retention on these. You wear these OC?
(http://www.glocktech.com/reviews/review_images/regulator_G27.JPG) (http://www.ubgholsters.com/bonneville.jpg)
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http://www.glocktech.com/reviews/review_images/regulator_G27.JPG (http://www.glocktech.com/reviews/review_images/regulator_G27.JPG)
http://www.ubgholsters.com/bonneville.jpg (http://www.ubgholsters.com/bonneville.jpg)
Not very good retention on these. You wear these OC?
(http://www.glocktech.com/reviews/review_images/regulator_G27.JPG) (http://www.ubgholsters.com/bonneville.jpg)
Those are they type I use when I OC in a PFZ. Otherwise, I usually carry mexican. Retention is possible even without a holster if you train for it. I was litteralyy lifted off the ground during training without a holster in a "gun grab" scenario.
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http://www.glocktech.com/reviews/review_images/regulator_G27.JPG (http://www.glocktech.com/reviews/review_images/regulator_G27.JPG)
http://www.ubgholsters.com/bonneville.jpg (http://www.ubgholsters.com/bonneville.jpg)
Not very good retention on these. You wear these OC?
(http://www.glocktech.com/reviews/review_images/regulator_G27.JPG) (http://www.ubgholsters.com/bonneville.jpg)
Those are they type I use when I OC in a PFZ. Otherwise, I usually carry mexican. Retention is possible even without a holster if you train for it. I was litteralyy lifted off the ground during training without a holster in a "gun grab" scenario.
OMG !!!!!
You have carried WITHOUT a holster???????
How many people did you kill before you shot yourself?
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How many people did you kill before you shot yourself?
Are you assuming he carries a Glock?
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Those are they type I use when I OC in a PFZ. Otherwise, I usually carry mexican. Retention is possible even without a holster if you train for it. I was litteralyy lifted off the ground during training without a holster in a "gun grab" scenario.
OMG !!!!!
You have carried WITHOUT a holster???????
How many people did you kill before you shot yourself?
*covers eyes*
Did you mean to say that in purple?
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Who started this purple crap?!?!?
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Who started this purple crap?!?!?
Someone on MGO, IIRC.
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:o Whats wrong with a GLOCK??? i've carried mine Mexican, (not regularly) never had a problem. i use a blackhawk serpa paddle or a bianchi "fbi" type holster for OC it clips over belt (dont gotta take belt off) and leather in-pants for CC. have also worn drop leg (lots of questions while doing so... be prepared to talk if u do so) i prefer my serpa paddle the most, its comfortable secure and doesn't draw lots of attention.
for me it all depends on what im doing that day on how i carry (what holster i will use). recommendations are nice, but may take u trying holsters to find what u prefer.
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Whats wrong with a GLOCK???
http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showpost.php?p=1621092&postcount=73 (http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showpost.php?p=1621092&postcount=73)
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:o Whats wrong with a GLOCK???
What's wrong with a Glock?!?!?
Where do I start???
They don't have any safety. And are unsafe.
They go off all by themselves.
They are plastic and can go through metal detectors.
People always shoot themselves with them.
They aren't ergonomically fit for anyone's hands.
They are prone to FTF from limp wristing.
They aren't accurate.
Did I mention they don't have any safety? And that they go off all by themselves?
I never carry mine with any bullets in it. I don't want to shoot myself or anyone else. In fact I have mine completely disassembled with all the parts stored in different locations throughout the country to avoid any negligent discharges.
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Opps. I forgot to use purple.
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Not very good retention on these. You wear these OC?
Yes. I have tried all of the wonder holsters (Serpa, Safariland, etc) and have not been happy. Once I get my workbench straightened around and get some others made that I've promised I'll make a holster with an old fashioned thumb break. Until then, that's what I carry with.
Bronson
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http://www.glocktech.com/reviews/review_images/regulator_G27.JPG (http://www.glocktech.com/reviews/review_images/regulator_G27.JPG)
http://www.ubgholsters.com/bonneville.jpg (http://www.ubgholsters.com/bonneville.jpg)
Not very good retention on these. You wear these OC?
(http://www.glocktech.com/reviews/review_images/regulator_G27.JPG) (http://www.ubgholsters.com/bonneville.jpg)
I wish I had something like that. I'm using an Uncle Mikes atm. Doesn't look half as good as that one. :'(
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I wouldn't want to use a dropleg... though anyone can feel free to, especially if they are OCing without CPL in winter... to make extra sure coat doesnt' cover it. A lot of people willl think you are a "tactical tommy" wannabe if you have a drop leg... also the firearm will get noticed a lot more.
Well one thing you could do is add some washers between the paddle and the body of the holster... thus making more distance between the butt of the gun (while in the holster) and your body... more room for your coat to stick in there.
Yes, I certainly see your point and don't want to use a drop-leg holster for the same reasons. But is there another way you could OC during the winter? Besides constantly checking your coat, I mean. I cannot get a CPL until I'm 21, which will be in a little over two years. And I am certain there are others in the same boat.
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:o Whats wrong with a GLOCK???
What's wrong with a Glock?!?!?
Where do I start???
They don't have any safety. And are unsafe.
They go off all by themselves.
They are plastic and can go through metal detectors.
People always shoot themselves with them.
They aren't ergonomically fit for anyone's hands.
They are prone to FTF from limp wristing.
They aren't accurate.
Did I mention they don't have any safety? And that they go off all by themselves?
I never carry mine with any bullets in it. I don't want to shoot myself or anyone else. In fact I have mine completely disassembled with all the parts stored in different locations throughout the country to avoid any negligent discharges.
i carry mine LOADED everyday.. never had a problem with it going off by itself.. there is a safety its called your FINGER!!! its is not all plastic... never had a problem with accuraccy but then i shoot funny anyway. everyone has there own preference, i like my glock but like most of you i have a lot o friends who dont. to each his/her own... and why are you worried about metal detectors??? and for the people that shoot themselves, well that just pure stupidity! don't point it at yourself (kinda common sense)....
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:o Whats wrong with a GLOCK???
What's wrong with a Glock?!?!?
Where do I start???
They don't have any safety. And are unsafe.
They go off all by themselves.
They are plastic and can go through metal detectors.
People always shoot themselves with them.
They aren't ergonomically fit for anyone's hands.
They are prone to FTF from limp wristing.
They aren't accurate.
Did I mention they don't have any safety? And that they go off all by themselves?
I never carry mine with any bullets in it. I don't want to shoot myself or anyone else. In fact I have mine completely disassembled with all the parts stored in different locations throughout the country to avoid any negligent discharges.
i carry mine LOADED everyday.. never had a problem with it going off by itself.. there is a safety its called your FINGER!!! its is not all plastic... never had a problem with accuraccy but then i shoot funny anyway. everyone has there own preference, i like my glock but like most of you i have a lot o friends who dont. to each his/her own... and why are you worried about metal detectors??? and for the people that shoot themselves, well that just pure stupidity! don't point it at yourself (kinda common sense)....
I guess you're one of the lucky ones. I would NEVER even have ammo in the same state as my Glock. I read all about them from all of the "Glock Experts" over at MGO.
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:o Whats wrong with a GLOCK???
What's wrong with a Glock?!?!?
Where do I start???
They don't have any safety. And are unsafe.
They go off all by themselves.
They are plastic and can go through metal detectors.
People always shoot themselves with them.
They aren't ergonomically fit for anyone's hands.
They are prone to FTF from limp wristing.
They aren't accurate.
Did I mention they don't have any safety? And that they go off all by themselves?
I never carry mine with any bullets in it. I don't want to shoot myself or anyone else. In fact I have mine completely disassembled with all the parts stored in different locations throughout the country to avoid any negligent discharges.
Mine are apparently defective..... :o
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Yeah I know this is an older post... (just going through and reading up on what's been posted so far to see if any of my questions may have been answered.)
For the sake of the OP, you will get many different recommendations when it comes to holsters. It is also safe to suggest that you will acquire a number of holsters to fit different scenarios. I personally have 3 right now. I have a leather holster similar to the one listed, but it is brown (matches my shoes and belt, for "dressier" occasions.) I have a tuckable holster similar to the CrossBreed, but made by Galco, I really like this style for CC'ing. And then I have my trusty Blackhawk paddle holster (can also be attached as a belt holster) which I absolutely love. It is so comfortable, has adequate retention, and it holds on to your pants / shorts / belt in such a way that I have even carried it without wearing a belt on shorts such as board shorts (type of swim trunks). I do want to get simplified "IWB" (in the wasteband) holster for when I need to conceal (at work), KingTuk is great but I am limited to its placement.
I'm actually kind of hoping there is a hint of sarcasm when it comes to the Glock. I know not everyone has their preferences, but with that being said.
-If I load my Glock and set it on the table, it will NEVER go off all by it's self.
-They can't go through metal detectors, yes the frame is made out of a type of nylon plastic BUT good luck getting the rest of the gun through.
-They have 3 internal safeties, which many others do as well such as S&W M&P.
-safe action.... the striker cannot physically strike the back of the round without the trigger being pulled. there is a cyclinder in the way.
-Accuracy = combat weapon vs competition weapon. Big difference.
-FTF from limp wristing = don't limp wrist, I've only put about 2,000 rounds through mine so far and shot every possible way I can think of including purposely limp wristing. I have not had one issue other than different scenarios affecting my accuracy in different ways.
-Ergonomics, this is probably one of the number one reasons other than caliber that people choose different guns.... some things feel better in the hands of others. I honestly can't stand my wife's S&W .38 Special. Fun to shoot, but HATE how it feels in my hands. She LOVES it.
I thought a lot of these things when I first started looking for a firearm. Honeslty by do my homework, as well as actually shooting them, I was converted. LOL I was originally dead set on a Springfield XD (still a VERY nice weapon, and I may pick one up someday)
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I'm actually kind of hoping there is a hint of sarcasm when it comes to the Glock. I know not everyone has their preferences, but with that being said.
Purple is the universal color for sarcasm on MGO and MOC's Forum ;)
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LOL... good to know!
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If I load my Glock and set it on the table, it will NEVER go off all by it's self.
Says you.
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FWIW, I understand a chambered gun (any) is a not-so-nice thing in a house fire.
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I guess that's where specifics come in to play. ;) I should have said, without any kind of interaction from outside forces. Albeit this is pretty much the case for any "modern" firearm.
Now that I know purple = sarcasm, everything makes perfect sense, which I kinda had a feeling that was what the post was implying. However, I have many gun owners amongst my family and friends. It seems as if some think I have done the 2 worst things you could ever do as a parent with young children in the house. 1) Own a Pit Bull, 2) Own and EDC a Glock (in which case almost all of those points come up).