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Open Carry Specific => OC Questions => Topic started by: alokrip on March 18, 2012, 09:05:10 AM

Title: bike rides?
Post by: alokrip on March 18, 2012, 09:05:10 AM
Poked around a little and didn't see anything but I was wondering about oc w/o cpl on bike rides (pedal bike, not motorized)? Is this legal or would you still have to have a cpl?
Title: Re: bike rides?
Post by: autosurgeon on March 18, 2012, 03:40:46 PM
Grey area... Some think OK some not. I personally recons against.
Title: bike rides?
Post by: TheQ on March 18, 2012, 03:50:40 PM
Safest thing in all cases is getting a CPL. Is there a reason that you can't?
Title: Re: bike rides?
Post by: alokrip on March 18, 2012, 07:49:07 PM
Only reason I havent gotten it yet is money, times are a little tight.
Title: Re: bike rides?
Post by: xj bmx on March 31, 2012, 08:45:34 PM
The way I read it is that the law says you cannot carry in a vehicle without CPL, and since they go by definition of vehicle "A vehicle (from Latin: vehiculum [1] ) is a mobile machine that is designed or used to transport people or cargo. Most often vehicles are manufactured, such as  bicycles, cars, motorcycles, trains, ships, boats, and aircraft.  "

BUT

 There are definitions that say a vehicle is a self propelled object used for transporting people and objects.  So by that definition a bike is not a vehicle since you are propelling it. But I feel the law is going to go with the first haha.
Title: Re: bike rides?
Post by: Golden Eagle on April 06, 2012, 05:38:19 PM
The way I read it is that the law says you cannot carry IN a vehicle without CPL, and since they go by definition of vehicle "A vehicle (from Latin: vehiculum [1] ) is a mobile machine that is designed or used to transport people or cargo. Most often vehicles are manufactured, such as  bicycles, cars, motorcycles, trains, ships, boats, and aircraft.  "

But I go by the definition of the word "in"... How can you or your gun be in a bike?  :-\   ;D
Title: bike rides?
Post by: TheQ on April 06, 2012, 08:02:00 PM
It's a gray area. If somebody would like to be a test case and doesn't mind risking their freedom and several thousand dollars to fight a case, by all means they should go ahead without a CPL.
Title: Re: bike rides?
Post by: DetroitBiker on April 07, 2012, 01:19:04 PM
The way I read it is that the law says you cannot carry IN a vehicle without CPL, and since they go by definition of vehicle "A vehicle (from Latin: vehiculum [1] ) is a mobile machine that is designed or used to transport people or cargo. Most often vehicles are manufactured, such as  bicycles, cars, motorcycles, trains, ships, boats, and aircraft.  "

But I go by the definition of the word "in"... How can you or your gun be in a bike?  :-\   ;D

Just because YOU go by the definition of the word "in"  does not mean the prosecutor will go by that definition.
It's a slippery slope.. Just be carefull is all im sayin.


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Title: Re: bike rides?
Post by: Jon Mire on June 06, 2012, 07:30:14 PM
http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2010/06/charges-dismissed-for-michigan-open.html (http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2010/06/charges-dismissed-for-michigan-open.html)