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Open Carry Specific => OC Experiences => Topic started by: MNCheff on July 10, 2014, 09:46:19 PM

Title: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: MNCheff on July 10, 2014, 09:46:19 PM
My brother in law got rear ended the other day in Riverview while open carrying.  He was dazed from an accident that just totaled his truck when the cops showed up.  He stepped out of the truck but did not approach the officers and tell them he was carrying.  When they saw it hanging on his hip they spun him around handcuffed him took his gun and his wallet.  They took his cpl and now he has to pay $500 to SEE if they will give him back his gun its not for sure they will return it and now he has to go before a review board to see if he can get his cpl back. I'm not sure if he did anything wrong.  He was not in the vehicle while talking to the officers so I don't know what there was to disclose to them. I feel his rights were violated but I'm curious to see what other folks think.  I might be wrong .
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: part deux on July 10, 2014, 10:07:57 PM
There is one really great 2A attorney downriver.  Goes by the user name Shyster, Jim Makowski.
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: MNCheff on July 10, 2014, 10:43:01 PM
Thanks I will find him and have them get in touch
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: gryphon on July 10, 2014, 11:20:35 PM
James Makowski
6528 Schaefer Rd.
Dearborn, MI 48126
Phone: (313) 584-1404
EMail: info@makowskilegal.com
Known Forum Names: Shyster (MOC, MGO)
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: Jeff on July 11, 2014, 11:36:34 AM
Disgusting.
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: MNCheff on July 11, 2014, 12:14:22 PM
He is meeting with shyster tonight.  I hope he can help him out. Thanks.
Title: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: TheQ on July 11, 2014, 12:20:13 PM
He is meeting with shyster tonight.  I hope he can help him out. Thanks.

This is probably the best decision so far. Glad to hear he's meeting with Jim, a very capable lawyer. I'm hopeful for a quick resolution. Him has been able to resolve things like this without need for the courts.

I would advise, he should expect to pay Jim some $. Given Jim doesn't do private practice for a living anymore, he mostly takes cases of personal interest -- and has been known to offer a more than fair retainer for such cases.
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: SD40VE on July 11, 2014, 12:31:11 PM
This is probably the best decision so far. Glad to hear he's meeting with Jim, a very capable lawyer. I'm hopeful for a quick resolution. Him has been able to resolve things like this without need for the courts.

I would advise, he should expect to pay Jim some $. Given Jim doesn't do private practice for a living anymore, he mostly takes cases of personal interest -- and has been known to offer a more than fair retainer for such cases.

i think i met jim when he was representing MGO at the mike green meet and greet. seems like a good guy
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: MNCheff on July 11, 2014, 01:02:05 PM
I guess when they talked to him he seemed pretty mad and said he doesn't work cheap but to give him the $500 the cops want and he will take care of it quickly.  I think they should take it to court to make sure nobody else has to go through this in that area again.  Oh the cops now drive by his house  real slow 3 times an hour watching him very intensely. He can't work on other car or even have a smoke on the porch without being watched.
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: SD40VE on July 11, 2014, 01:11:12 PM
I guess when they talked to him he seemed pretty mad and said he doesn't work cheap but to give him the $500 the cops want and he will take care of it quickly.  I think they should take it to court to make sure nobody else has to go through this in that area again.  Oh the cops now drive by his house  real slow 3 times an hour watching him very intensely. He can't work on other car or even have a smoke on the porch without being watched.

pretty sure that is harassment
Title: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: TheQ on July 11, 2014, 01:57:58 PM

I guess when they talked to him he seemed pretty mad and said he doesn't work cheap but to give him the $500 the cops want and he will take care of it quickly.  I think they should take it to court to make sure nobody else has to go through this in that area again.  Oh the cops now drive by his house  real slow 3 times an hour watching him very intensely. He can't work on other car or even have a smoke on the porch without being watched.

He should tell that to his lawyer.
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: part deux on July 11, 2014, 02:26:43 PM
Jim no longer private practices?
Title: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: TheQ on July 11, 2014, 02:58:50 PM

Jim no longer private practices?

He has a full time employer/client. He only takes cases privately that are of special interest to him -- usually gun cases.

That's what I understand.
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: MNCheff on July 11, 2014, 03:01:11 PM
He found this one interesting then cuz he took it.
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: Hawk on July 15, 2014, 10:19:20 PM
Keep us updated. I'm very interested to see how this one turns out.
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: Scott Leyder on August 18, 2014, 11:23:55 AM
Anyone know what happened with this case?  I would be interested in hearing some more about it.
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: CitizensHaveRights on August 18, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
I'd expect total silence until the criminal case is finished, then hopefully we'll hear the details on that before any civil case starts up.

I don't expect to see any details on the civil case (if there is one) until it's resolved either.
Note to plaintiff's attorney: You don't HAVE to agree to an NDA just because the defendant wants to keep their malfeasance against the taxpayers hidden.   
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: Scott Leyder on August 18, 2014, 01:20:00 PM
Right, I just hadn't really seen anything that stated that the case was continuing in the court system or, some one with some brain cells in the department actually did the responsible thing.  Does anyone know where this is going through the court system at and a case number?  I might be interested in following it some.
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: CitizensHaveRights on August 18, 2014, 01:40:39 PM
Good point.
 If the persecuting attorney's (or city attorney's) office has any brains, they'd dismiss with prejudice after Shyster chewed on them for a while, rather than watch him rip them apart in front of a judge.

I'm just assuming silence implies 'case still open'.
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: linux203 on August 18, 2014, 06:33:36 PM
The totality of the OP's posts here at MOC are contained in this thread and hasn't logged in since 7/13.  I doubt we will hear anything concerning this again.
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: #1Gunner on January 23, 2015, 10:03:09 AM
Anyone ever hear anything at all or read anything at all about this case?
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: Ezerharden on January 23, 2015, 10:43:13 AM
Nope
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: #1Gunner on January 23, 2015, 10:55:52 AM
Thats a shame I would have liked to find out what happened. Me and about 200 others Lol. :-\
Title: Re: cops took his gun and cpl
Post by: linux203 on January 23, 2015, 05:47:42 PM
The totality of the OP's posts here at MOC are contained in this thread and hasn't logged in since 7/13.  I doubt we will hear anything concerning this again.

Yup....