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Open Carry Specific => OC Experiences => Topic started by: SD40VE on December 06, 2013, 09:32:27 AM

Title: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: SD40VE on December 06, 2013, 09:32:27 AM
OC'ed at best buy in chesterfield, the manager asked me to remove my gun as it was against company policy. well little did he know i was educated in BB company policy and they follow state and fed laws. i said i will step outside if you wish. please call your DM and corporate security to enlighten yourself on the company policy. he said i am the manager and my rules over rule theirs. :) BB corporate is getting a email with a voice clip of that and i am filing a formal complaint against that DB at the store :) they missed on a $1700 washer/dryer purchase and i went to ABC warehouse to purchase. i made sure to include that with the email to corporate :)

keep calm and carry on
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: SD40VE on December 06, 2013, 02:21:16 PM
bb corporate called me today and apologized for issues last night, the reiterated what i had stated earlier that best buy's firearm policy follow state/fed laws. they will be sure to educate the store manager of their policies. they also said the manager has a right to ask you to leave if it is making the employees or customers feel uncomfortable. the bad part is the manager never told me that it was making anyone uncomfortable.

either way i said thats fine i wont be patronizing that store ever again and if you check my rewards points history i make alot of purchases there and they have lost a life long good customer. i ended by saying they need to educate managers on this to prevent another issue such as this from happening when someone is within their legal rights and decides to carry a firearm legally for their protection
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: Raggs on December 06, 2013, 03:28:22 PM
"they also said the manager has a right to ask you to leave if it is making the employees or customers feel uncomfortable."

And the catch-all, the manager was likely uncomfortable
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: SD40VE on December 06, 2013, 03:33:14 PM
true. sucks that they made such a fuss about a holstered firearm and in turn lost a good sized sale and good customer.
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: Raggs on December 06, 2013, 03:34:27 PM
true. sucks that they made such a fuss about a holstered firearm and in turn lost a good sized sale and good customer.

The Best Buy I usually go to has never mentioned my firearm.
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: fozzy71 on December 06, 2013, 03:43:42 PM
The Best Buy I usually go to has never mentioned my firearm.

ditto, I have never had a issue at the Roseville store.
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: SD40VE on December 06, 2013, 04:28:29 PM
apparently this manager doesnt approve of OC and since hes the manager he made a fuss. i was in full hunting camo too. that may have played a part. we were small game hunting yesterday. i guess i will make the trek to roseville to get items from best buy in the future.
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: Raggs on December 06, 2013, 04:30:19 PM
apparently this manager doesnt approve of OC and since hes the manager he made a fuss. i was in full hunting camo too. that may have played a part. we were small game hunting yesterday. i guess i will make the trek to roseville to get items from best buy in the future.

Sadly the way you are attired does in fact matter.
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: hevymetal on December 06, 2013, 05:28:06 PM
bb corporate called me today and apologized for issues last night, the reiterated what i had stated earlier that best buy's firearm policy follow state/fed laws. they will be sure to educate the store manager of their policies. they also said the manager has a right to ask you to leave if it is making the employees or customers feel uncomfortable. the bad part is the manager never told me that it was making anyone uncomfortable.

either way i said thats fine i wont be patronizing that store ever again and if you check my rewards points history i make alot of purchases there and they have lost a life long good customer. i ended by saying they need to educate managers on this to prevent another issue such as this from happening when someone is within their legal rights and decides to carry a firearm legally for their protection

Wait, what?? The one at 23 and Gratiot? I have been in there at least 8 times in the last month and a half for work related purchases and have been OCing at least 7 of the times and have never had a word mentioned about my firearm. Other then the tech guys in the back asking what kind it was. I think I will have to go there again this weekend and see what happens.
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: CV67PAT on December 06, 2013, 06:56:44 PM
true. sucks that they made such a fuss about a holstered firearm and in turn lost a good sized sale and good customer.
"I am never going to Best Buy again."

apparently this manager doesnt approve of OC and since hes the manager he made a fuss. i was in full hunting camo too. that may have played a part. we were small game hunting yesterday. i guess i will make the trek to roseville to get items from best buy in the future.
"I am never going into that Best Buy ever again."
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: casper on December 13, 2013, 01:56:15 PM
I open carried at the Best buy in Holland today, no issues.
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: hevymetal on December 14, 2013, 12:10:37 AM
Was back at the BB at 23 and Gratiot OCed for about 1/2 an hour while shopping. Not a word was said by anyone, got a couple of the usual looks but no issues.
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: SD40VE on December 16, 2013, 12:39:49 PM
idk man, maybe the manager wasnt in or didnt notice you. he sure gave me a rough time.
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: CV67PAT on December 16, 2013, 01:45:53 PM
Again??? I thought you were never going back there ever.
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: SD40VE on December 16, 2013, 01:49:12 PM
i will not be heading back there again, ive been going to the roseville location and had no issues yet. i had only went the the first time when i had posted. he was saying he didnt have an issue when he went recently
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: fozzy71 on December 16, 2013, 02:09:33 PM
Again??? I thought you were never going back there ever.

hevymetal is not the OP
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: CV67PAT on December 16, 2013, 05:51:06 PM
hevymetal is not the OP
I posted from a stupid smartphone. It didn't do the quote. I was responding to the most recent post by the OP where he commented about getting a rough time. But I do appreciate your assistance in keeping me straight as to whom the OP is.

BTW, how's the garden doing?
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: scot623 on December 17, 2013, 08:52:18 AM
I think it's safe to say the fastest way to illicit a negative reaction from businesses or the public in general is to open carry while wearing full camo coming off like a militia member or rocking the fully blacked out mall ninja tactical look. It may not be "right", but it is true.
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: Glock9mmOldStyle on December 17, 2013, 08:20:42 PM
I have long said if one truly wants to be in "cammo" then dress in business casual, one damn near becomes invisible in most urban/suburban settings.  8)
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: autosurgeon on December 17, 2013, 11:15:31 PM
That is generally true .. Dress for the environ you wish to blend in to. Woodland camouflage in an urban environment is not blending in. It is sticking out.. And things that stick out get attention. Some good and some bad.

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Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: CV67PAT on December 19, 2013, 11:40:29 AM
That is generally true .. Dress for the environ you wish to blend in to. Woodland camouflage in an urban environment is not blending in. It is sticking out.. And things that stick out get attention. Some good and some bad.

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He wants to stick out. Read the sig line.
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: Shadow Bear on December 20, 2013, 11:06:38 AM
And we can go on and on about 'dressing for success' or dressing for attention, and then complaining when you receive that 'attention'. Don't want to blame the victim, but society is what it is; biased.
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: SD40VE on December 20, 2013, 03:41:36 PM
my question is why should i change my lifestyle. i was out hunting. stopped by best buy to purchase a washer and dryer and got a rough time because i was in some real tree they decided to hassle me that particular day? doesnt make sense to me. its their loss not mine. i live about 4-5 miles up the road from there its not exactly urban. there are lots of open farm land and woods to hunt in. thats what i do, its how i dress. im not changing that. i was dissapointed they made a big issue out of it and asked me to leave but ill get over it. in the end its because of that they lost out on a sale because it and i just went into another retailer. i wasnt going for attention. my wardrobe was functional for the activities i was doing that day. anyways... lol
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: CV67PAT on December 20, 2013, 03:48:43 PM
Nobody has said that you should change your lifestyle.

You get treated different because you like to dress different.

Just sayin'.



Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: SD40VE on December 20, 2013, 03:54:06 PM
i would assume my attire in the middle of deer firearms season should have been pretty common in this area. but then again who knows where that particular person is. he probably saw me looking like i walked off the set of duck dynasty and decided to give me a rough time. it is what it is
Title: Re: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: CV67PAT on December 20, 2013, 03:56:36 PM
i would assume my attire in the middle of deer firearms season should have been pretty common in this area. but then again who knows where that particular person is. he probably saw me looking like i walked off the set of duck dynasty and decided to give me a rough time. it is what it is
23 and Gratiot is not as rural as you might think.
Title: Kicked out of Best Buy
Post by: Smashfacekrav on December 20, 2013, 04:36:11 PM

i would assume my attire in the middle of deer firearms season should have been pretty common in this area. but then again who knows where that particular person is. he probably saw me looking like i walked off the set of duck dynasty and decided to give me a rough time. it is what it is
You should have asked him if he wanted your autograph.


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