Being that I am newly immersed into the OC situations....I have a question concerning the OC/CC Chart that is posted. Could you please post the penal code area/law that supstantiates the section OC w/CPL ...... churches yes... theatres yes... bars yes..... etc...
My understanding was they were off limits period. Completely gun free.
(1) Except as provided in subsection (2), a person shall not possess a firearm on the premises of any of the following:
(a) A depository financial institution or a subsidiary or affiliate of a depository financial institution.
(b) A church or other house of religious worship.
(c) A court.
(d) A theatre.
(e) A sports arena.
(f) A day care center.
(g) A hospital.
(h) An establishment licensed under the Michigan liquor control act, Act No. 8 of the Public Acts of the Extra Session of 1933, being sections 436.1 to 436.58 of the Michigan Compiled Laws.
(2) This section does not apply to any of the following:
(a) A person who owns, or is employed by or contracted by, an entity described in subsection (1) if the possession of that firearm is to provide security services for that entity.
(b) A peace officer.
(c) A person licensed by this state or another state to carry a concealed weapon.
(d) A person who possesses a firearm on the premises of an entity described in subsection (1) if that possession is with the permission of the owner or an agent of the owner of that entity.
(3) A person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 90 days or a fine of not more than $100.00, or both.
Security Policies for Court Facilities
Supreme Court Administrative Order 2001-1 states that weapons are not permitted in any courtroom, office, or other space used for official court business or by judicial employees unless the chief judge or other person designated by the chief judge has given prior approval consistent with the court's written policy. Each court is required to submit a written policy conforming with this order to the State Court Administrator for approval. Courts are encouraged to collaborate with other entities in shared facilities and, where appropriate, to work with local funding units in developing the policy, which may be a separate plan or part of a general security program.
Thanks Bronson.... just to clarify.... the OC w/CPL section of the Carry Chart is based upon MCL 750.234 (2d) .... i.e. I can OC in these listed areas as long as I have permission to do so. MCL 750.234 (2c) also excempts the CPL holder, but the CPL holder is then governed under the rules/laws and pistol free zones of MCL 28.425o. Did I close the circle correctly??? :-\Read MCL 28.425o again. Nowhere does it say that a CPL holder is "governed" by anything.
Also to note: forgive my wording in my original question: "completely gun free..." I do understand they are not completely off limits. I've read these laws hundreds of times...they drive my nuts.... :P
Premises on which carrying concealed weapon prohibited
Again, all this information can be found within the many stickies under this sub forum.That's why I didn't provide it in my post.
Premises on which carrying concealed weapon prohibited; |
(c) A person licensed by this state or another state to carry a concealed weapon. |
you guys moderating, hosting, etc..., have been chewing on this cud for a long time...and it is "old hat" "old news", and you will encounter more folks like myself, with even more frequency, jumping on this sight, and not believing everything they read (at first). Not because they don't want to, but because they have "incomplete" interpretations and understandings of our state penal code.
Use this chart as a quick guide:Thank you so much! I am new to open carry but I do have my CPL. As soon as I read the laws and I saw "(c) A person licensed by this state or another state to carry a concealed weapon." I was immediately confused. This is exactly what I was looking for.