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General Category => Latest News Stories => Topic started by: CitizensHaveRights on July 11, 2016, 05:35:55 PM

Title: Berrien County Courthouse Shootings
Post by: CitizensHaveRights on July 11, 2016, 05:35:55 PM
A prisoner took a handgun from a deputy, killed two bailiffs, wounded a deputy (the gun donor?), and was shot dead by other LEOs.
Several non-LEOs were transported to the hospital, but the Freep doesn't bother to tell us how they got injured.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/07/11/berrien-courthouse-shooting-what-we-know-now/86956922/
Title: Re: Berrien County Courthouse Shootings
Post by: gryphon on July 13, 2016, 06:22:07 PM
How did he get the gun? Deputy must not have been wearing a good holster.
Title: Re: Berrien County Courthouse Shootings
Post by: CitizensHaveRights on July 13, 2016, 09:59:21 PM
Some more details have come out.
Cuffed in front, shot and wounded his transport deputy after taking his sidearm.
Shot and killed two bailiffs.
Other bailiffs came running and won the resulting shootout.
A female bystander was shot. Since she was shot with a duty gun, and the perp had a duty gun, people seem to be assuming he shot her but I don't think anything concrete has been said about who fired that shot.

MadFrothingAtTheMouthMommy Shannon Watts blames the NRA for the ready availability of handguns hanging from duty belts. No, seriously, she really did. Don't you just love it when the other side goes out of their way to discredit themselves?
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/07/daniel-zimmerman/shannon-watts-nra-blame-michigan-prisoner-gun-grab/
Title: Re: Berrien County Courthouse Shootings
Post by: gryphon on July 13, 2016, 11:57:28 PM
So she wants to disarm law enforcement?
Title: Re: Berrien County Courthouse Shootings
Post by: CitizensHaveRights on July 14, 2016, 10:27:32 AM
Now she's trying to claim that she meant it's the NRA's fault that the cops don't have 'smart guns'.

I thought it was every police union in the country that refuses to accept smart guns as duty weapons.
Title: Re: Berrien County Courthouse Shootings
Post by: LD on July 14, 2016, 12:07:49 PM
Quote from: CitizensHaveRights on July 14, 2016, 10:27:32 AM
Now she's trying to claim that she meant it's the NRA's fault that the cops don't have 'smart guns'.

I thought it was every police union in the country that refuses to accept smart guns as duty weapons.

I don't agree that it is the NRA's fault that they don't have "smart guns" but I think ALL government employees that handle a firearm should be REQUIRED to ONLY have access to "Smart Guns".
That means ALL guns that ANY of them have access to.

That will prove to the general public how effective & safe they are and pave the way to universal usage.
Title: Re: Berrien County Courthouse Shootings
Post by: TheQ on July 17, 2016, 01:42:10 AM
Quote from: LD on July 14, 2016, 12:07:49 PM
I don't agree that it is the NRA's fault that they don't have "smart guns" but I think ALL government employees that handle a firearm should be REQUIRED to ONLY have access to "Smart Guns".
That means ALL guns that ANY of them have access to.

That will prove to the general public how effective & safe they are and pave the way to universal usage.


I'm an IT geek for the SoM gang. Guess I need to turn in my personal handguns for smart guns?
Title: Re: Berrien County Courthouse Shootings
Post by: LD on July 17, 2016, 07:11:16 AM
Quote from: TheQ on July 17, 2016, 01:42:10 AM

I'm an IT geek for the SoM gang. Guess I need to turn in my personal handguns for smart guns?

Absolutely... Do your part to protect America and show how safe "Smart Guns" are.
Title: Re: Berrien County Courthouse Shootings
Post by: G36shooter on July 18, 2016, 09:43:49 PM
LD, with all do respect can you document what LE agency supports "smart gun technology"?
Title: Re: Berrien County Courthouse Shootings
Post by: LD on July 18, 2016, 10:20:57 PM
Quote from: G36shooter on July 18, 2016, 09:43:49 PM
LD, with all do respect can you document what LE agency supports "smart gun technology"?

For themselves?  Certainly not but for "civilians"?

I'm sure many departments could be found.