Stand your ground under attack again

[Ezerharden]

Here we go again. This should be something we all talk about on April 29th in Lansing

"We will make sure that on this November ballot that we get the opportunity to strike a blow for justice for Trayvon Martin, to strike a blow for justice for Renisha McBride," says Rev. Charles Williams of the Detroit National Action Network.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/24935861/battle-underway-to-repeal-michigans-stand-your-ground-law

[Divegeek]

Does anybody know how many signatures they have to get to get this tripe on the ballot?

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[jgillmanjr]

Does anybody know how many signatures they have to get to get this tripe on the ballot?

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http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-Article-II-9

The people reserve to themselves the power to propose laws and to enact and reject laws, called the initiative, and the power to approve or reject laws enacted by the legislature, called the referendum. The power of initiative extends only to laws which the legislature may enact under this constitution. The power of referendum does not extend to acts making appropriations for state institutions or to meet deficiencies in state funds and must be invoked in the manner prescribed by law within 90 days following the final adjournment of the legislative session at which the law was enacted. To invoke the initiative or referendum, petitions signed by a number of registered electors, not less than eight percent for initiative and five percent for referendum of the total vote cast for all candidates for governor at the last preceding general election at which a governor was elected shall be required.

No law as to which the power of referendum properly has been invoked shall be effective thereafter unless approved by a majority of the electors voting thereon at the next general election.

Any law proposed by initiative petition shall be either enacted or rejected by the legislature without change or amendment within 40 session days from the time such petition is received by the legislature. If any law proposed by such petition shall be enacted by the legislature it shall be subject to referendum, as hereinafter provided.

If the law so proposed is not enacted by the legislature within the 40 days, the state officer authorized by law shall submit such proposed law to the people for approval or rejection at the next general election. The legislature may reject any measure so proposed by initiative petition and propose a different measure upon the same subject by a yea and nay vote upon separate roll calls, and in such event both measures shall be submitted by such state officer to the electors for approval or rejection at the next general election.

Any law submitted to the people by either initiative or referendum petition and approved by a majority of the votes cast thereon at any election shall take effect 10 days after the date of the official declaration of the vote. No law initiated or adopted by the people shall be subject to the veto power of the governor, and no law adopted by the people at the polls under the initiative provisions of this section shall be amended or repealed, except by a vote of the electors unless otherwise provided in the initiative measure or by three-fourths of the members elected to and serving in each house of the legislature. Laws approved by the people under the referendum provision of this section may be amended by the legislature at any subsequent session thereof. If two or more measures approved by the electors at the same election conflict, that receiving the highest affirmative vote shall prevail.

The legislature shall implement the provisions of this section.

According to http://www.michigan.gov/documents/sos/Ini_Ref_Pet_Website_339487_7.pdf, the number looks to be 258,088

[part deux]

Meanwhile, Detroit Police Chief is telling citizens to arm themselves and defend their homes.

[TheQ]

http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-Article-II-9

According to http://www.michigan.gov/documents/sos/Ini_Ref_Pet_Website_339487_7.pdf, the number looks to be 258,088

A near impossible task. We've considered doing it for PFZ repeal.

[Ezerharden]

Trayvon Martin: SYG not used. Reshina McBride: shooter charged with murder.

How does repealing SYG give justice to these people? I have a better idea for the "rev's"; Preach to your communities and congregations to stop robbing/assaulting people and maybe they will stop being shot.

[part deux]

Same content pulled from WDIV's website.

[linux203]

http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2014/03/stand_your_ground_protest_mich.html

LANSING, MI -- A group of two dozen activists rallied at the state Capitol on Tuesday, promising to launch a ballot campaign to repeal Michigan's "stand your ground" law if lawmakers fail to update it.

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2014/03/open_carry_march.html

Adams was one of roughly 80 open-carry advocates who marched from Fuller Park to the corner of Lakeside Drive and Michigan Street NE, where Johann Deffert was detained on March 3, 2013, by Grand Rapids police after residents in the area called 911 to report a man walking down the sidewalk with a holstered pistol.

I believe the term is "vocal minority"

[part deux]

I believe the term is "vocal minority"

Problem is, the majority generally wants to go about their lives and be left alone... allowing the vocal minority to control our destiny

[METL]

Here we go again. This should be something we all talk about on April 29th in Lansing

"We will make sure that on this November ballot that we get the opportunity to strike a blow for justice for Trayvon Martin, to strike a blow for justice for Renisha McBride," says Rev. Charles Williams of the Detroit National Action Network.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/24935861/battle-underway-to-repeal-michigans-stand-your-ground-law

Doesn't this idiot realize that all of the recent home invasion shootings in the D would make the home owner subject to prosecution without the "SYG" laws?    I can't stand stupid people!!!

[TheQ]

Doesn't this idiot realize that all of the recent home invasion shootings in the D would make the home owner subject to prosecution without the "SYG" laws?    I can't stand stupid people!!!

Home defense is covered under a statute different than SD act of 2006. Forgive me, I don't have the cite ATM.

[CV67PAT]

Home defense is covered under a statute different than SD act of 2006. Forgive me, I don't have the cite ATM.

Home invasion self defense is covered here:
MCL780.951 Individual using deadly force or force other than deadly force; presumption; definitions.
http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-780-951