OC on private property and the feds will try to shoot you

[CitizensHaveRights]

Fortunately they often don't hit what they are shooting at:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/border-patrol-agent-fires-armed-militia-member-25186701

Either the sheriff or the AP reporter found it important to tell us that the shooting victim was doing nothing illegal and therefore wasn't arrested. No mention of why his would-be killer was not arrested.

[gryphon]

the Border Patrol, Texas Department of Public Safety and local law enforcement, there are enough agencies working to secure the border.

Really? Then why are millions of illegals getting into this country if they are enough to secure the border?  More asshattery.

[Glock9mmOldStyle]

Really? Then why are millions of illegals getting into this country if they are enough to secure the border?  More asshattery.

Yep - they don't need any help...MILLIONS have got by them to date. Maybe that's the objective? Don't want honest citizens witnessing anything they should not, now do they?

[gryphon]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
OFFICIAL NONCLASSIFIED INCIDENT REPORT
SITREP: CAMP LONESTAR
Posted to ACR by KC on the border in TEXAS about an clash between his group and Law enforcement agncies

30 Aug14

SUBJECT: BP AGENT DISCHARGES FIREARM AT VOLUNTEER CONCERNED CITIZEN

On or about Wednesday 27AUG14 at approx 18:00 Archie, a fellow teammate at Camp Lonestar, met Mr Aguliar curator of the wildlife sanctuary located on the Texas Border at a Gas Station named “Stripes”. After speaking with Archie, Mr. Agulair showed interest in having us patrol the sanctuary due to illegal alien incursions onto his property. He invited us to come speak with him.

On 29AUG14 at approx. 14:00 We (KC, Wolf, Jesus) went to speak with Mr. Aguliar about patrolling his property. After agreeing to his terms for patrol on his property, we set out to scout the new property along the river. After we cleaned up 3 crossing spots(we remove refuse to beautify our state and to allow us to monitor new traffic) we observed a dismounted Border Patrol Agent walking down the river road. We knew from working with BP when they are dismounted they are actively looking for illegals that have crossed into US territory. I approached the Agent and asked him what was going on. The BP agent informed us that they had illegals being pushed toward our location from other BP agents. We asked if we could help him and he said yes. We heard voices coming from the river so we deployed to the river approx. 75 yards apart, which was to the rear position of the BP agents position to cover his back. Wolf took the most Northern position I assumed the middle position and Jesus was in the southern position. While I was in a covered position on the river I observed a heavily tattooed late 20’s early 30’s Hispanic male hollering and whistling up and down the river. While observing suspect I heard a series of approx. 5 gun shots ring out. My first impression was, it was the cartel flexing their might to attempt to intimidate us as they had done previously to BP. I observed suspect until he got out of my visual range. When I went back up to the top of the ridge to reposition myself to further observe the suspect, my teammate Wolf informed me a BP Captain was looking for me. I immediately proceeded to meet the Captain on the border road. I observed the BP Captain coming toward me holding the AK Pistol Jesus was carrying and Jesus following behind the Agent. When the BP Captain and I got within speaking range he informed me that one of his agents discharged his firearm at my teammate(Jesus) approx. 5 times. He stated to me his agent mistook our teammate as an illegal and saw the weapon and he opened fire without provocation or without ordering Jesus to drop his weapon. I then observed the Agent who discharged his weapon and he was visibly shaken. His skin was flushed and his color appeared to be white. After about 20 minutes the Agent was back to a normal darker skin tone. The BP Captain then asked us to move out of the “HOT” zone for our security to further discuss the incidental discharge. We agreed and moved approx. 250 yards from the site of the shooting.

When we arrived at the new location the BP agent chose, we stopped approx. 30 yds. behind his vehicle. I disarmed and stowed my side arm in the glove box of the mule and left my rifle leaning on the gun rack mounted to the mule. Wolf left his rifle laying on the back seat of the mule and we dismounted. Wolf retained his pistol concealed under his blouse. We then approached the BP Captain and continued to discuss the incident. After approx. 15 minutes BP agents started to gather at our location to secure the scene for the ensuing investigation into the discharge of the BP agents firearm. The BP Captain asked us if he could secure our weapons since we did have illegals in the area and we were not in a position to protect the weapons from being used against us by an illegal. We consented to him securing the weapons in his vehicle. The BP Captain also took possession of my GoPro camera that was mounted to the mule.

After approx. 45 minutes a Charge Sargent of the Cameron County sheriffs office arrived and took possession of our identification and he proceeded to run our names and backgrounds. He also ran the numbers on our weapons which all came back clear. I had to scratch the paint off of my AK pistol for the BP and deputy to obtain the serial number. He also ran the VIN of my mule which was clear. Shortly afterwards top ranking Border Patrol commanders and investigators arrived. The FBI and Homeland security investigators arrived on the scene. I was questioned by Homeland Security agent and an FBI agent about what I knew and observed. I answered all questions posed to me truly and accurately. After approx. 5 hours being detained by Federal and county officials we were told we were free to go.

While we were waiting for our identification back we observed the Deputy Sheriff taking possession of our weapons. When I questioned why he was taking our weapons after they were cleared as not stolen and we had every legal right to possess them on the private property we had permission to be on, I was informed they were “Part of the investigation” into the discharge of a weapon by a federal agent. I again questioned why our weapons were part of an investigation that we had not committed and wrong doing. The Deputy asserted he was told to do so and I could retrieve my weapons Monday 1SEPT14 at the Sheriffs office. I was not given an inventory list of the weapons being held nor for my GoPro camera they refused to give back due to their investigation. I was just told to go to the Sheriffs office next week. The SSG with the Cameron County sheriffs office returned our identification and told us we were free to go. Again I asked about my weapons and camera and again I was refused access to my lawful property. We mounted up on the mule and departed to our base camp.

The statement reported by AP is completely false. We never identified ourselves as “Militia” as a matter of fact we all stated we are NOT Militia just Concerned Patriotic American Citizen here to help protect and serve our fellow Americans being victimized by these illegals aliens and support the Border Patrol in the deterring of illegal incursions onto American soil.

KC Massey
CO Camp LoneStar

[CitizensHaveRights]

Thanks for that write-up, gryphon.

Is this the original source?
http://libertasintel.wordpress.com/2014/08/30/cameron-county-sheriff-confiscates-weapons-on-private-property-in-texas/

[gryphon]

No, that's not the original.  Not sure what ACR is, but that's where it was apparently posted before a lot of others picked it up.  I've seen it reposted several places but can't seem to find the original.  If I do I'll let you know.

[gryphon]

More on the incident:

This all started with 3 patriots patrolling private property on a road that parallels the river. A border patrol officer pulled up and warned them that a group of illegals had crossed nearby and that they should leave the area. He was a single agent and was the blocking force for several agents trying to drive the illegals in his direction. The 3 patriots offered to help, and the agent agreed. So they set up between the river and the road behind the agents position to protect his back. 1 by the river, 1 by the road, and 1 in between. The patriot nearest the river saw an illegal emerge near the water yelling for others, he was described as early twenties with lots of tattoos. As he was observing this young illegal, he heard shots fired near the road. He immediately withdrew and headed for the road where he knew one of the others in his group was sitting next to the road. Upon exiting the tree line he saw a different agent, the one who had fired the shots, and his fellow patriots in a discussion. they put their guns on the mule they had been using as part of the patrol. Pretty soon the BP supervisor arrived, then the DEA and DHS were all on the scene. The patriots guns were checked and cleared, but the border patrol seized them as part of the investigation, even though the only shots fired were from the BP agent.

+++++

In case you are wondering, the “Patriot” never put down hi firearm, he maintains strict discipline and kept it pointed at the ground directly in front of him. Also, He was carrying a AK-47 pistol grip rifle, not a AR. Everyone, including the border patrolman who fired the shots, said the “patriot” acted very professionally in the way he maintained his gun discipline. Each of the 3 men placed their firearms on the Mule, (motorized), and 2 of the 3 put their exposed handguns in the glove compartment of the mule, also. One of them had a concealed handgun, which remained concealed and was not confiscated. The authorities also removed a handi cam from the Mule which had been recording during the incident. They were told they could retrieve their guns after September 1st. As far as I have heard, all the firearms were returned, but the Patriots couldn’t mention anything besides that.