just a thought, you should come out to the gander mountain in utica its november 6, there will be 2 presentations one at 11am and another at 1pm
they are a great way to meet fellow OC'ers and ask any questions you might have. i will be there to run the computer and some of the board members will be there also. we often relate our own interactions with people and law enforcement, and answer questions about those interactions.
we may go to the CC's pizza restraunt next door after the 1pm seminar is finished so first timers can try open carry if they want.