Author Topic: New guy, Berrien Springs  (Read 5226 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline showpare

  • Posts: 5
New guy, Berrien Springs
« on: November 27, 2013, 07:17:21 AM »
Hi, everybody.  Moved to Michigan in August.  I'm a Lifetime NRA member and politically active.  Was a holder of the Indiana Lifetime carry permit. 

Has there been legislation to repeal handgun registration?
Any bills for a lifetime carry permit?

Offline bigt8261

  • MOC President
  • MOC Board Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1482
    • Michigan Open Carry, Inc
  • First Name (Displayed): Tom
Re: New guy, Berrien Springs
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2013, 08:29:39 AM »
Welcome to Michigan. Make sure you sign up for your email updates for notices of events in your area. www.miopencarry.org/updates

There has been work to eliminate pistol registration over the past few years, but the bills either get altered or don't move. There is currently an effort in Lansing to alter the registration process and how the information can be accessed. It's not everything we want, but it's a step.

I've not heard of anything for lifetime carry permits. To be honest, I don't believe such a bill is feasible in our current climate. We have good senate and fairly good house, but the governor's office is not our friend.

We are still working.

Offline dmd7765

  • MOC Member
  • *
  • Posts: 75
  • First Name (Displayed): Dave
Re: New guy, Berrien Springs
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 08:48:09 AM »
Welcome from Novi
molon labe!!
MOC Member
MGO Member

Offline gryphon

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 4038
  • First Name (Displayed): Dan
Re: New guy, Berrien Springs
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2013, 11:24:01 AM »
Welcome from Okemos. :)

A brief description of this session's firearms bills with links to the bills themselves can be found in the current issue of our newsletter, which can be found online here:

http://miopencarry.org/moc_files/publications/newsletter/MOC-Newsletter-2.pdf

If you sign up for email updates as Bigt suggested, in addition to notices of events in your area, you also have the option to receive legislative updates and notification when our newsletters are published and links to them.   

http://www.miopencarry.org/updates

Offline Ezerharden

  • Former Secretary
  • MOC Regional Coordinator, Deputy
  • ***
  • Posts: 783
  • I don't dial 911
  • First Name (Displayed): Mike
Re: New guy, Berrien Springs
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2013, 11:41:44 AM »
Welcome from Erie.
Want to keep informed of events in your area? Go to http://www.miopencarry.org/update

I carry a gun because a Police Officer is too heavy.

Offline autosurgeon

  • MOC Treasurer
  • MOC Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1056
  • First Name (Displayed): Ryan
Re: New guy, Berrien Springs
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2013, 10:54:03 PM »
Welcome from Lawrence

Sent from my Optimus G using Tapatalk

Anything I post may be my opinion and not the law... you are responsible to do your own verification.

Blackstone (1753-1765) maintains that "the law holds that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

Offline TheQ

  • Website Content Manager
  • MOC Lifetime Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4263
    • Michigan Open Carry, Inc.
  • First Name (Displayed): Phillip
New guy, Berrien Springs
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2013, 01:04:46 AM »
Regarding a lifetime carry permit, this would be viewed as something negative.

The NICS waiver only is valid if the permit's length does not exceed 5 years. There has been discussion about making our current CPL a lifetime permit, but this gets brought up every time that discussion happens.
I Am Not A Lawyer (nor a gunsmith).

Offline kcsmith88

  • Posts: 6
New guy, Berrien Springs
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2013, 10:45:25 AM »
What about the idea of a permit that has to be renewed every 5 years only without paying the $100 fee every time?  It seems like for renewals, the fee should be much lower.   Has this ever been discussed?

Offline TheQ

  • Website Content Manager
  • MOC Lifetime Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4263
    • Michigan Open Carry, Inc.
  • First Name (Displayed): Phillip
New guy, Berrien Springs
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2013, 12:06:24 PM »

What about the idea of a permit that has to be renewed every 5 years only without paying the $100 fee every time?  It seems like for renewals, the fee should be much lower.   Has this ever been discussed?

A reduction of the renewal has been discussed. If you read SB 213 (currently dead), you will see there is a modest reduction for renewals.
I Am Not A Lawyer (nor a gunsmith).

Offline showpare

  • Posts: 5
Re: New guy, Berrien Springs
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2013, 04:40:35 PM »
Regarding a lifetime carry permit, this would be viewed as something negative.

The NICS waiver only is valid if the permit's length does not exceed 5 years. There has been discussion about making our current CPL a lifetime permit, but this gets brought up every time that discussion happens.

I'm not sure how Indiana got around it.  I'll check into it.
« Last Edit: November 29, 2013, 12:20:12 AM by showpare »

Offline Smashfacekrav

  • Posts: 117
  • First Name (Displayed): Smashfacekrav
New guy, Berrien Springs
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2013, 07:52:09 AM »
Hudsonville welcomes you


"May God have mercy on my enemies, because I won't."
General George Patton

Offline drtodd

  • MOC Member
  • *
  • Posts: 145
  • MOC Charter Member
"The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime." Miller v. U.S. 230 F 486 at 489

"Where rights as secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which will abrogate them." Miranda v. Ariz., 384 U.S. 436 at 491 (1966).