MGO backs Ann Arbor Schools suit

[CitizensHaveRights]

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/04/michigan_gun_owners_files_laws.html

To paraphrase a AA school official "what we're doing is illegal, and we'll probably get sued for it, but I don't give a $#|t, it's not my money"

[TheQ]

+1 for MGO

[gryphon]

Well, this is very interesting!

http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?327586-Michigan-Gun-Owners-files-suit-against-Ann-Arbor-Public-Schools&p=2604315&viewfull=1#post2604315

[CitizensHaveRights]

Good. That would give voters grounds to recall the bastards for mismanagement, if only the bastards weren't doing exactly what the AA voting public wants them to do.

It's a big district. I bet a 100k legal bill is a drop in the proverbial bucket.

[gryphon]

It may just be a "drop in the bucket" as far as overall budget, but most school districts have every dollar budgeted and any unforseen expenditure probably hurts and takes away from something else.

Most Michigan school systems have a lot of waste in them.  I was looking though the offices and departments of one county a while back and there were dozens of offices that had zero to do with the education of our children.

[part deux]

Friend that lives in district said they are having financial issues, and it's getting worse.  They have way over spent current and hoped for enrollment.

[CitizensHaveRights]

I can see it now: Dear Legislature, please save us from our own stupidity by changing the law to make what we already did legal. Do it for the children, otherwise those mean nasty gun owners will take money from the mouths of innocent students and teachers.

[CitizensHaveRights]

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/05/ann_arbor_schools_looks_to_ins.html

[m.marino]

Ann arbor is not going to like it when the insurance company tells them to pay the bill themselves. I would love to read a copy of the contract that Ann arbor has with Zurich, as I am willing to bet a good bit of money there is a clause in there for NOT covering illegal activities willful or other wise illegal done by the district or it's agents.

The comment section in that article has one individual who is just special in all the wrong ways. How a person can come across as both insulting and arrogant in such short phrases is truly a work .

[CitizensHaveRights]

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/05/ann_arbor_parents_seek_change.html

1038 petition signatures from Ann Arbor parents statewide, if you believe that everybody signing petitions at MoveOn.org lives in Michigan. (snort)

"Until Lewis attended the choir concert at Pioneer High, she said, she didn't know concealed pistol license holders were allowed to carry a sidearm in schools.

As a psychiatrist, Lewis said she approaches the topic of guns in schools from a health standpoint and not a political side." (ROFL)

[m.marino]

Hey she knows how to take her ques from her superiors very well. Even though the CDC and three other studies all show guns owners to be MORE mentally stable then the general public. The "progressives" say that it is a mental health issue and they are "right" you know. Now where did I put that manila rope for those neck ties.

[CitizensHaveRights]

http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/contributors/2015/05/16/guns-schools/27398953/


Make the right decision about guns in schools
By Kristen Moore, Detroit Free Press guest writer 12:19 a.m. EDT May 16, 2015

Kristen Moore is the volunteer chapter leader for the Michigan chapter of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, a part of Everytown for Gun Safety, the nation's largest gun violence prevention organization.

[CitizensHaveRights]

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/08/michigan_gun_owners_confident.html

Any chance of combining the Clio and Ann Arbor suits at the Court of Appeals, assuming Judge Kuhnke rules the only way the statute allows, and assuming AA schools appeal the decision?

[TheQ]

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/08/michigan_gun_owners_confident.html

Any chance of combining the Clio and Ann Arbor suits at the Court of Appeals, assuming Judge Kuhnke rules the only way the statute allows, and assuming AA schools appeal the decision?

Consolidation is certainly an option, it's at the sole discretion of the CoS.

[dmd7765]

Summary disposition was granted to AAPS, ignored a higher court ruling. Off to appeals we go

[TheQ]

Summary disposition was granted to AAPS, ignored a higher court ruling. Off to appeals we go

Now that we have a Circuit split, this will be interesting.

I bet the CoA will consolidate.

[CitizensHaveRights]

Summary disposition, as in "you guys don't have enough facts on your side to merit a trial, the school is obviously the winner here"?

To approve a motion for summary judgment in favor of the side that keeps losing in every other court in the state makes one wonder what the judge smoked for breakfast.

[gryphon]

I want to read his dismissal ruling.

[CitizensHaveRights]

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/09/judge_throws_out_gun_lawsuit_a.html

A Washtenaw County judge Wednesday dismissed a lawsuit against Ann Arbor Public Schools that claimed its policies banning guns break state law.

Michigan Gun Owners in April filed a lawsuit against the district, which had enacted policies that effectively ban guns from schools.

Washtenaw County Circuit Court Judge Carol Kuhnke on Wednesday, Sept. 23 granted the district's motion for summary disposition, thereby dismissing the lawsuit.

While state law prohibits local units of government from enacting firearms policies, the law does not define a school district as a local unit of government, Kuhnke said.

Ann Arbor Public Schools Superintendent Jeanice Swift said she was thrilled but not surprised by the decision.

Jim Makowski, the attorney for Michigan Gun Owners, said he will appeal the ruling.

The Ann Arbor Public Schools policies create a "dangerous weapon and disruption-free zone" on all district-owned property, prohibiting the presence of guns, explosives and a variety of knives and other objects.

Kuhnke's ruling is contrary to the outcome of a similar lawsuit against Clio schools. A Genesee County judge ruled earlier this year a father can carry a gun into schools as state law does not ban concealed pistol license holders from openly carrying in schools.

[CitizensHaveRights]

And the law does define a library board as a local unit of government, or the judge is directly defying CADL v MOC?